VRR Problems

Gizzard1533 · Post by **Gizzard1533** » Thu Apr 05, 2012 1:41 pm

Just finished up wiring in my new VRR and its causing me a few problems, the main one being that when the vrr is plugged in the bike wont run, unplugged it will run up to 6k before it starts to flood (but thats a seperate issue). the wires are all in the correct place and it has its own ground wire attached to it. However i did join up the original and new ground wires together, could this be the problem as every picture i've seen has two seperate earth wires. Am i clutching at straws thinking that a joined up ground wires will cause this issue? Or could it be something completely different? It runs fine with out it plugged in but as soon as the vrr is plugged in it doesn't want to know.

Can anyone help me please??? I need the bike for Monday.....

Stranglerman · Post by **Stranglerman** » Thu Apr 05, 2012 2:41 pm

You've gota manual son. Have you checked the wiring diagram mate. I would seperate the two earth wires as well. On your original R6 reg/rec I wired them in seperately.

Gizzard1533 · Post by **Gizzard1533** » Thu Apr 05, 2012 2:48 pm

Stranglerman wrote:You've gota manual son. Have you checked the wiring diagram mate. I would seperate the two earth wires as well. On your original R6 reg/rec I wired them in seperately.

whats my manual gotta do with it, everything is fine till the vrr is plugged in. Think im gonna seperate the two wires tomorrow, the same earthing point should be fine shouldn't it??? You still over here saturday???

olie05 · Post by **olie05** » Thu Apr 05, 2012 2:54 pm

Do you own a voltmeter?

Take the following measurements:
battery voltage with vrr disconnected and ignition off
battery voltage with vrr disconnected and ignition on (engine off)
battery voltage with vrr connected and ignition off
battery voltage with vrr connected and ignition on (engine off)

My feeling is that one of these is not what it's supposed to be. (they should all be within 12-14v)

Stranglerman · Post by **Stranglerman** » Thu Apr 05, 2012 2:55 pm

I used the same earthing point for the last VR if I remember correctly. Yes I'm still over Saturday. What time?????

Gizzard1533 · Post by **Gizzard1533** » Thu Apr 05, 2012 2:56 pm

olie05 wrote:Do you own a voltmeter?

Take the following measurements:
battery voltage with vrr disconnected and ignition off
battery voltage with vrr disconnected and ignition on (engine off)
battery voltage with vrr connected and ignition off
battery voltage with vrr connected and ignition on (engine off)

My feeling is that one of these is not what it's supposed to be. (they should all be within 12-14v)

If one of those readings is out what would that suggest?

Gizzard1533 · Post by **Gizzard1533** » Thu Apr 05, 2012 2:59 pm

Stranglerman wrote:I used the same earthing point for the last VR if I remember correctly. Yes I'm still over Saturday. What time?????

I cant remember, probably just gonna put two new ring connectors on the wires and screw them into the heat sink

. Any time i got the whole day off so shall be on the bike at early doors (yes i will be sh*tting the bed).

Stranglerman · Post by **Stranglerman** » Thu Apr 05, 2012 3:06 pm

Okay mate.Will text you when I'm on way. It'll be a simple fix, always is. Don't forget that.

Gizzard1533 · Post by **Gizzard1533** » Thu Apr 05, 2012 3:11 pm

Stranglerman wrote:Okay mate.Will text you when I'm on way. It'll be a simple fix, always is. Don't forget that.

It fooking better be, this brace has gone under surgery already.

Stranglerman · Post by **Stranglerman** » Thu Apr 05, 2012 3:20 pm

???????? What the bracing from Alan??

Gizzard1533 · Post by **Gizzard1533** » Thu Apr 05, 2012 3:23 pm

Yeah, nothing on Alans part the guy who bent the box section didn't follow his drawing closely enough and the two sides are closer than they should have been, so i've had to cut part the brace out, flip it round then chemical metal it back into place to create a recess in the brace to allow the chain free movement as it used to catch on it. Hopefully it sorts out the problem, if not the brace is being hacked off....

Stranglerman · Post by **Stranglerman** » Thu Apr 05, 2012 3:26 pm

What you cut the whole brace off or just a little bit??

olie05 · Post by **olie05** » Thu Apr 05, 2012 3:27 pm

Gizzard1533 wrote:
olie05 wrote:Do you own a voltmeter?

Take the following measurements:
battery voltage with vrr disconnected and ignition off
battery voltage with vrr disconnected and ignition on (engine off)
battery voltage with vrr connected and ignition off
battery voltage with vrr connected and ignition on (engine off)

My feeling is that one of these is not what it's supposed to be. (they should all be within 12-14v)
If one of those readings is out what would that suggest?

Just a suggestion to get you diagnosing rather than just swapping around wires until it works. I'd be afraid that the VRR is wired wrong and you are getting a short.

Stranglerman · Post by **Stranglerman** » Thu Apr 05, 2012 3:28 pm

So thats the powder coating stuffed as well..

Gizzard1533 · Post by **Gizzard1533** » Thu Apr 05, 2012 3:33 pm

olie05 wrote:
Gizzard1533 wrote:
olie05 wrote:Do you own a voltmeter?

Take the following measurements:
battery voltage with vrr disconnected and ignition off
battery voltage with vrr disconnected and ignition on (engine off)
battery voltage with vrr connected and ignition off
battery voltage with vrr connected and ignition on (engine off)

My feeling is that one of these is not what it's supposed to be. (they should all be within 12-14v)
If one of those readings is out what would that suggest?
Just a suggestion to get you diagnosing rather than just swapping around wires until it works. I'd be afraid that the VRR is wired wrong and you are getting a short.

Okay mate, i'll get the multimetre out tomorrow and test those, didn't wanna come across brash just aint got the foggiest with electricky

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