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Hmmm... Looks like you got your forks lowered a bit. :cop:
That will make it harder to lift the front up (wheelie). bonkonhead
Generally you lower the bike to avoid the front coming up in a drag race. :whistle
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Dragon wrote:Hmmm... Looks like you got your forks lowered a bit. :cop:
That will make it harder to lift the front up (wheelie). bonkonhead
Generally you lower the bike to avoid the front coming up in a drag race. :whistle
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actually, I tried a wheelies before I lowered it and couldnt get it up.
maybe one day I should get a 52 rear sprocket, lower the back and raise the front.
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actually, I tried a wheelies before I lowered it and couldnt get it up.
maybe one day I should get a 52 rear sprocket, lower the back and raise the front.
It's not as easy as some people make it sound on the fizz. 52 in the rear will surely get it up with the right rpm's and clutching it up. Try popping the clutch at about 9 to 10 grand (rpm) while in first gear rolling, but make sure and cover your rear brake with your foot. Rise baby rise!!!! :shocker
Don't lower the back and raise the front you may flip over more easily. my2cents
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YAM93 wrote:
Notice that FasterThanUr is running 14-49, R6 header and custom ram air, also i'm pretty sure he's running a lightweight 400 aluminum frame.
Yeah I have the 400 frame.Havent quite got the ram air working yet,need bigger equalization tubes so I just pulled the air ducts off the scoops into the upper fairing for now.Im sure the cooler air from up front helps tho.On my old 6E that was longer and about 100 pounds heavier than this bike with stock 530/gearing I could roll on to about 7-8k snap it shut and right back open and bring the front up quite a bit.You just have to get the timeing right.Be nice and smooth and dont over think it.

In my opinion theres three different types of wheelies.
1)Power wheelie.Thats when your at a crusing speed and with out letting off the throttle just roll on and front comes up.Any one whos ridden a newer R1 or something of similar power knows what I mean.
2)Clutch up.Pretty much self explanatory .When I clutch up at around 10-15mph I'll blep the throtle twice wile slipping the clutch.On the second blep of the throttle I will completely let the clutch out and up comes the front.Once again you just have to get the timeing right and be nice and smooth.
3)Bouncing it up.This is what I prefer.It puts less stress on the drive train.You accelerate up to about 8k.Let off which will compress your front suspention and wack the throttle back open.This way you suspention will assist to bring the front end up :thumbsup:
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There is a definite knack to popping a wheelie. Just to reiterate, wheelies can be unnerving at first, and I'm definitely no expert. My bike is pretty much stock, front forks are lowered (20mm) rear is raised (35mm) I'm running a stock 530 chain 15/45. I can accomplish a power wheelie at the top of 1st gear around 8 -10K letting off (quick) and cracking the throttle (quick), but this seems a little hard on the drive train, but it will come up.

And I try to do this in a "un-squidly" manner" cuz I might fall down and get a boo boo.. :ermm:

Check this out and it may be helpful: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rmduaIjSDjc#

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PIMPMYFZR wrote:yea a 14-45 spocket combo will get you up , and then if you want to make it even easier go 14-52 and you be wheelie off the line , and this is all without even poppin the clutch

when you put the 52 on the back, did you have to get a new chain????
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YAM93 wrote:you're just gonna kill yourself, take it easy.
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Get Thatkid to build you an R6 header, put an aftermarket (FMF, Yoshimura, etc.) pipe on it and it should make enough of a difference for what you want to do. Follow our write-up under his section.

I couldn't do wheelies at all with the stock 530 chain 15-45 sprocket set-up. I could do small wheelies with the 520 chain and 14-47 sprockets. With the R6 header I can do wheelies all day. Honestly though, "power wheelies" are really not going to be normal for most FZR's... at least for our heavy steel frame 600's.

Notice that FasterThanUr is running 14-49, R6 header and custom ram air, also i'm pretty sure he's running a lightweight 400 aluminum frame.

I dont see how the r6 header would help anything!
what does it do??
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shredex wrote: I dont see how the r6 header would help anything!
what does it do??
Shaves weight and opens up the motor for more power. Plus its a 4-2-1 header so it has more of a scavenging affect than the stock 4-1 header, giving you more torque. You will have to re-tune your carbs with any exhaust you purchase, but TK's R6 header mod is definitely the best bang-for-your-buck header setup with minimal work involved.
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shredex wrote: I dont see how the r6 header would help anything!
what does it do??
Here's a thread on that very subject
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shredex wrote:has anyone gotten the fronts of there fzr's in the air????
I have an after market rear spoke with a few more teeth and I cant seem to get the front up with no matter what I try.
any suggestions??
I wish I had a 400 frame so the bike was lighter.
I only weigh 130lbs so it should put up without to much od a struggle.
cant get it up though (maybe some bike viagra?) :whistle
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TomGun wrote:There is a definite knack to popping a wheelie. Just to reiterate, wheelies can be unnerving at first, and I'm definitely no expert. My bike is pretty much stock, front forks are lowered (20mm) rear is raised (35mm) I'm running a stock 530 chain 15/45. I can accomplish a power wheelie at the top of 1st gear around 8 -10K letting off (quick) and cracking the throttle (quick), but this seems a little hard on the drive train, but it will come up.

And I try to do this in a "un-squidly" manner" cuz I might fall down and get a boo boo.. :ermm:

Check this out and it may be helpful: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rmduaIjSDjc#

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PIMPMYFZR wrote:yea a 14-45 spocket combo will get you up , and then if you want to make it even easier go 14-52 and you be wheelie off the line , and this is all without even poppin the clutch

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So is the 14-52 what you're running? what kind of gas mileage you getting with that? lol
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well, I just experimented with gearing.
I found out that the reason you can the bike up easier with a higher gearing in the rear, is because it gives the bike more tourqe do to less strain on the engine.

the less teeth you have in the back will give you a faster top speed, but will take away tourqe
the MORE teeth you add will lower your top speed, but give you more tourqe.
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no on that video i was actually running 14-45 in first gear pro 20-30mph , now im running 14-47 , i said 52 because i have no reason lol just figured more teeth more torque ...lol
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I'm running a 15-50 setup on mine, and have been looking at possibly a 14 tooth fron sprocket for days I want to "have fun", but hang onto the 15 tooth for roadtrip purposes. a 15-50 is basically the same as a 14-47, just gives you a little flexibility in case you want to swap for a 14 tooth front later on and puts less strain on the chain. I still get about 42-45 mpg with the 15-50, even on the interstate, and the worst I've seen so far has been 41, and all that is with worn emulsion tubes.
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