oil cooler

[yamaha_george]

Sure - how? I just spent 5 minutes rummaging through the Wiki, and really couldn't figure out WTF I was doing. I decided to stop before I formatted the server or something equally stupid...

Don,
will take a look and do it later on the pain level is getting a bit much to concentrate right now

http://fzronline.com/wiki/doku.php?id=d ... r_swapping

[scoobydoo]

apologies for straying from the initial post

[scoobydoo]

according to wiki the spin on oil filter wasnt introduced until 92, so i presume that was when the oil cooling system was changed

[DonTZ125]

According to lying-bastard Yamaha parts fiche, the change to spin-on filter was in '91. The FZR600, spin-on or cartridge, did not come with a cooler; the cooler was last seen on the FZ600/FJ600/XJ650. These are the US models, YMMV.

[DonTZ125]

apologies for straying from the initial post

Kinda hard to yell at the OP for thread hijacking...

[Yamster]

This thread has gotten SERIOUSLY off topic...

I'm going to go out on a limb here, and bring the topic back around. We just had a variant of this discussion over on the Archives; unless the UK '90 FZR600 was substantially different from the US model, Scoobydoo does in fact have a hybrid - the cooler is off an FZ600, but it's a bolt-on mod. The same parts were also used on the FJ600 and the XJ650.

It will just be a 89 model,that was sold and registered in 90,no hybrid or owt like that Don,just are strange British way and that

[yamaha_george]

Yep,
a '91 FZR600 paint job state side is seen as a '92 here I have one as living proof

so an ' 89 US model could by extrapolation be a '90 here ???

[DonTZ125]

This thread has gotten SERIOUSLY off topic...

I'm going to go out on a limb here, and bring the topic back around. We just had a variant of this discussion over on the Archives; unless the UK '90 FZR600 was substantially different from the US model, Scoobydoo does in fact have a hybrid - the cooler is off an FZ600, but it's a bolt-on mod. The same parts were also used on the FJ600 and the XJ650.

It will just be a 89 model,that was sold and registered in 90,no hybrid or owt like that Don,just are strange British way and that

That's ... wild. Paint is one thing, but complete assemblies? Every other instance I can think of for significant geographical differences, it's been government-mandated - always-on headlights in NA; speed limiter in Japan; the Swiss ignition curves are insanely retarded (in both meanings of the word, IMHO); the British intake restrictors. Speaking as an engineer whose job it is to figure out the cost and price for custom designed equipment, I'd guess the design changes for the Cali models added a few hundred dollars COST (not price!) per unit.

The smart-arse part of me wonders if the Brit and US versions weren't at opposite ends of the production run - were the UK versions were first, and they ran out of coolers? Or they were at the end, and the engineers found a box of coolers that they decided to use up?

[lennyz600]

this my sound like a silly question but is there a way to convert from a cartridge filter to a spin on? i kinda like the idea of an oil cooler but i have an '89.

[DonTZ125]

? If you have an '89, the cooler is a bolt-on mod. The spin-on (car-type) filter is a different bolt-on mod. The two can be combined, but the union bolt for the spin-on adaptor needs 3mm of surgery (to the head *I think*) in order to properly seat the filter.

[yamaha_george]

Don,
as a matter of fact the design engineers try to use other model parts (do not forget Yamaha state they will keep all parts as spares for 10 years from production date !) using other model bits keeps down storage prices and re- circulates stock

[DonTZ125]

YG - my point was not "Why did they use something from another model?" Yamaha is a notorious parts-bin company, to our benefit as so many parts are interchangeable.

My point was rather, For a given model year, why did they include a significant feature on one group of bikes heading to one destination but not on another group heading elsewhere, when there was no legislative requirement to do so?

[scoobydoo]

this seems to have stirred up a real hornets nest, great to see and highly educational but is there any way for me to know if this is factory fitted or a mod done by a previous owner. what is the benefit of a spin on filter apart from ease of access?

[yamaha_george]

this seems to have stirred up a real hornets nest, great to see and highly educational but is there any way for me to know if this is factory fitted or a mod done by a previous owner. what is the benefit of a spin on filter apart from ease of access?

Personally a spin on is a better design the old paper piece inside the casting always made me doubt if it sealed properly