1000 EXUP SWINGARM TO FZR 600 updated bolt sraight on

[racerd14666]

what do you mean you will have to put spacers on the rearsets? is there any length difference between the 2 swingarms?

[blensen]

I think he means he needs to space them out or else they will rub when the swingarm moves up and down.

[lennyz600]

i'm intrigued by how the 600 would handle with the wider tire, how many more tire choices there are for a 180 tire, and are the adjusters any better then the stock 600 ones? (i personally don't really care for the stock adjusters). for me this kind of upgrade would hinge on tires, as i know a 140R18 tire is very limited for options (my bike is an '89), but would it be cost effective to put the wider tire on it in the long run?

on the find

[blensen]

This wheel swap opens the door to literally almost every sportbike tire on the market. 180 is the width of all the current 600 race-replica models.

[racerd14666]

hmmm i dont remember the rearsets being that far back and close to the swingarm but then again idk how wide that swingarm is, il have to do some more research if the brake rotor and sprockets are the same as the 600 since they fit that kinda leads me to think they do, cus im planning on doing this swap just gotta get all the info strait, like what years swingarm fits and if any year fzr1k rim will work or what other rims you can use to match a 5 spoke front or any other rim that works with inverted forks

[yamaha_george]

hmmm i dont remember the rearsets being that far back and close to the swingarm but then again idk how wide that swingarm is, il have to do some more research if the brake rotor and sprockets are the same as the 600 since they fit that kinda leads me to think they do, cus im planning on doing this swap just gotta get all the info strait, like what years swingarm fits and if any year fzr1k rim will work or what other rims you can use to match a 5 spoke front or any other rim that works with inverted forks

Hi,
If you take a look on this web page:-
http://www.saltmine.org.uk/fzr/3tj-mod.html
you will see how close the rider pegs get to be to the swing arm. That pic was taken after the angle grinder was applied and allowed a very thin sheet of card to pass between the them.

That swing arm is slightly narrower than the 1k jobbie by 3mm and the throat (where the tyre goes) is better than 600 but not as good as the 1K EXUP

[tony]

sorry guys i didnt see page two the rearset i actualy ground and cut 5mm off the end of the bolts as it was protruding ,and as the swinger is tapered pic 1 once i sit on the bike and compress the shock the gap gets bigger ,with having put dog bones on to lift the bike the swinger can only go up so increasing the gap

[Target30]

i'm really surprised the chain is straight, with the added width and all. very nice. good work man.

[yamaha_george]

i'm really surprised the chain is straight, with the added width and all. very nice. good work man.

Target,
you forget this is from the FZR series and the frame throat was all the same BUT

I would be interested to know if the wheel is actually centered on the bikes centerline to achieve the straight chain run as I am not sure the counter shaft sprocket was off set the same on each engine size.
I know on my wheel swap/swingarm swap for the 600 required me to make spacers for the rear axle NOT that I had anything but the 600 spacers to start with. Which is why I ask

[tony]

good point george but the wheel is in centre the back brake linkage is one spacer and a spacer on the sprocket side these i got with the swinger if need be and enough interest i will be happy to strip down and take measurements of all parts to achive swap and pics to see weather they are stock parts ive measured from the centre of the wheel and it is 140mm from the centre to the inside of each side of the swingarm

[yamaha_george]

good point George but the wheel is in centre the back brake linkage is one spacer and a spacer on the sprocket side these i got with the swinger. If need be and enough interest i will be happy to strip down and take measurements of all parts to archive swap and pics to see whether they are stock parts ive measured from the centre of the wheel and it is 140mm from the centre to the inside of each side of the swing arm

Tony,
Thank you for that, it now clarifies the directness of the swap it is a true "bolt on" no "finessing" required :-}

I am now sorry I used the 3TJ in some ways but it was what was available at the time, as it is said you live & you will learn.

[Freestyle72]

Is the 3TJ swingarm as short as the stock FZR400 swinger? And is it wide enough to take a 5.5" rim?

Also for the exup 1K swinger how can the wheel be center if you didn't have to space the drive sprocket out. It doesn't make much sense since the added width has to come from somewhere. Otherwise the chain would hit the rim I would think. There is only so much space between sprocket and tire clearance.

[tony]

yes freestyle there is a spacer on the sprocket side its approx 10mm but i can ensure you the wheel is centered if you go up two post i did say it had spacer on sprocket side as you see i also had to space the exhaust out to get past the swinger

[racerd14666]

that got me thinking if it is inline with the front wheel, cus i seen some slight chain rub with certain 150's tires. so running a 190 with out any offset any were makes me wonder how that works.

[yamaha_george]

Is the 3TJ swingarm as short as the stock FZR400 swinger? And is it wide enough to take a 5.5" rim?.

FS,
5.5 rim I doubt, I used the 3TJ (which is a FZR400 swing arm ) simply because I got given a FZR400 17" rim which has more rubber available (not that I have used the 17" rim as 3 days before it was due to arrive the 18" got a screw in it and since I was miles from home I had to get the tyre now for now and get back home ). The rim is sitting patiently for me to get her powder coated in white after diligently polishing the lips :-}