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Re: electrical issue- digital ignition

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old_school wrote:You know guys i gotta tell you we've all heard nightmare stories about the FZR VR.. Are we causing these ourselves? I've also put a custom tail on and mounted the VR in an area that doesn't get much airflow.. Still looking for a cheap digital igniter if anyone has one..
O/S,
you may well be right IF it is a modern finned variety with insufficient airflow OR heatsink shield.
Ipaced mine with a thin layer of heat sink paste(computer) and a thin metal shim of alloy plate again with paste to a bigger mounting plate of alloy. & the fins in the air flow direction (NOT in convection flow )

All in the name of cooling.
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Re: electrical issue- digital ignition

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yamaha_george wrote:
trifgeorge wrote:I got my VR fitted on the lower triple clamp. If that position doesn't keep it cool, no other position will
Yo T_Geo.
see you have the cyclops FZR headlamp too (a single housing with two headlamps with big magnifier lenses )
I guess i do George. Why are you saying it like it would mean something? Are they so rare or are they bad or something like that?
1992 Yamaha FZR 600 3HE with:
GSX600F fully adjustable rebound forks
GSX600F front wheel with full floating disks
Sigma BC 1009 speedometer
YZF 600 Thundercat tank
Red Rizoma like grips
R6 pilot seat
Complete custom made tail with custom made rear seat
Led front and rear signals and tail light
Custom fiberglass electrics box
R6 Voltage regulator
Custom made rearset hangers
Custom made A123 LiFePO4 battery
KOSO mirrors
GSXR600SRAD swingarm-rear wheel assemby with 180/55/17 Michelin Pilot Power 2CT rear tyre
FZR1000 hydraulic clutch
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Re: electrical issue- digital ignition

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trifgeorge wrote:
yamaha_george wrote:
trifgeorge wrote:I got my VR fitted on the lower triple clamp. If that position doesn't keep it cool, no other position will
Yo T_Geo.
see you have the cyclops FZR headlamp too (a single housing with two headlamps with big magnifier lenses )
I guess i do George. Why are you saying it like it would mean something? Are they so rare or are they bad or something like that?
They are rare in the UK I have only ever seen two for sale on Flea bay
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Here in Romania, they can be seen pretty often on the roads. I can allmost say that there are more cyclops headlight 600s than dual headlight ones, here in Romania.
1992 Yamaha FZR 600 3HE with:
GSX600F fully adjustable rebound forks
GSX600F front wheel with full floating disks
Sigma BC 1009 speedometer
YZF 600 Thundercat tank
Red Rizoma like grips
R6 pilot seat
Complete custom made tail with custom made rear seat
Led front and rear signals and tail light
Custom fiberglass electrics box
R6 Voltage regulator
Custom made rearset hangers
Custom made A123 LiFePO4 battery
KOSO mirrors
GSXR600SRAD swingarm-rear wheel assemby with 180/55/17 Michelin Pilot Power 2CT rear tyre
FZR1000 hydraulic clutch
H1 HID
Hand made mirror plates
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Re: electrical issue- digital ignition

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Guys,

just to close out this thread.. I picked up a used TCI (DIGITAL IGNITER) from Match put it in and the bike fired right up.. Thanks all for the input!
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Re: electrical issue- digital ignition

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I need to find a good place for my VR as well. if that spot is cool enough I think the sneaky spot under my tail would work... Hmmm
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Wherever you decide to relocate it. Things to consider.

1. Heat dissipation, I used the stock aluminium back plate, is that stock? it's what was on my old VR. The bracket i made is as large as possible, so as not to interfere with other components (my case tank/harness) the material is 3mm thick stainless steel. Don't earth the VR (black wire) on the bracket, otherwise the wire will also get hot.

2. Location, protected from rain/water, mud or any other debris (i don't know where the "the sneaky spot under my tail" is)

I plan to monitor mine with the IR temp gun.

EDIT.

Anyone know safe a working temp for the VR?
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yamaha_george wrote:
old_school wrote:thanks Don.. Thats a job bigger than Me.. and hopefully i will be able to pickup a igniter cheap on the board. :) Thanks for the advice!
O_S,
don't you have a mate who is into that kind of thing ? If not when you get your next one you can ping me and I will take a look at doing it for you (mind you I will have to ping my name sake in Romania as to how he got the lid off the TCI unit without breaking it LoL)
Hi George, Just reading the thread and noticed you know someone who knows how to get the casing off the TCI (without butchering it in the process). Could you kindly ask him the procedure?

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buzz,

DonTZ125 was the member.. He is active on the board you can send him a PM. Also, Don and george are setting up an exchange program to repair these.. might take them some time to get the process in place.
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Re: electrical issue- digital ignition

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Heh - don't credit me with TOO much wisdom. Trifgeorge was the fellow who had his apart for the Wiki photos. He says a previous owner opened it, and there was a fair bit of damage. Opening these toys is quite possibly the most difficult thing I'm going to have to figure out with this project.

Worse comes to worst, I may have to carve them open, then re-seal them to return them to service - something I hope to avoid...
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Re: electrical issue- digital ignition

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mawler wrote:Wherever you decide to relocate it. Things to consider.

1. Heat dissipation, I used the stock aluminium back plate, is that stock? it's what was on my old VR. The bracket i made is as large as possible, so as not to interfere with other components (my case tank/harness) the material is 3mm thick stainless steel. Don't earth the VR (black wire) on the bracket, otherwise the wire will also get hot.

2. Location, protected from rain/water, mud or any other debris (i don't know where the "the sneaky spot under my tail" is)

I plan to monitor mine with the IR temp gun.

EDIT.

Anyone know safe a working temp for the VR?
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this is the sneaky undertail spot. I know I gotta rotate it 90 degrees. Not much room with the late model r6 tails.
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That looks like a sneaky spot :)
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Re: electrical issue- digital ignition

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mawler wrote:That looks like a sneaky spot :)
Remember water from the back wheel can be sneaky too dia-lectric grease & silicon glue are your best friends
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