why a swing arm swap? this is more about tires.

[cad600]

Skeeter and George are both correct. Wheel size (which also involves availability) and compound selection is the biggest reason for swapping. Just wanting a wider rear tire is definatly a personal dicision.

And I did ride the bike with the SSSA on it. Even if it was only for 10 minutes.

[kikepiz]

Guys, im lost a little here...

The GXS R wheel can't hold a 180 tire with out changing the FZR swing arm?
Does a FZR with a single sided swing arm exist running, or it was a project pic?

[cad600]

Guys, im lost a little here...

The GXS R wheel can't hold a 180 tire with out changing the FZR swing arm?
Does a FZR with a single sided swing arm exist running, or it was a project pic?

You need to swap the FZR swingarm out if you want bigger than a 160 really. There are many things that start to get in the way if you don't.

And the Single Sided Swingarm is a mod I''m doing to my FZR. I had it running and rideable when I had another mishap and fried the engine. So I'm fixing a different engine to put in it while I'm sorting some other things out. Here is a link to the thread and a picture for you. The picture was taken just after the first time I rode it with the conversion, it has been adjusted a little now. viewtopic.php?f=30&t=181

[95FZR600]

And if you want a 99-02 R6 swinger I have a complete write-up with lots of pics. Also, see below.

[yamaha_george]

And if you want a 99-02 R6 swinger I have a complete write-up with lots of pics. Also, see below.

I have two write ups for swing arm replacements that are straight bolt ins no real machine work required at:-

http://www.saltmine.org.uk/fzr/swingarm.html

http://www.saltmine.org.uk/fzr/3tj-mod.html

[reelrazor]

I myself would be leery of installing a much wider than stock tire at one end of any bike.

Wider is not always better. Wide can ruin the fine handling of many bikes that were not engineered for such wide rubber.

And when you go really wide at the rear and not have a corresponding increase in width at the front you change the oversteer/understeer/neutral balance of the bike. Bikes I have ridden with really wide rears, and 'normal' fronts feel like they want to push the front end around.

One of the things I like about the FZR is its' very fine handling. That handling is predicated on a range of factors..chassis geometry(which onteh FZR was optimised for the tire widths of its' day), and that balance of front/rear tire width/profile.

And there isn't a 150 out there that isn't capable of dealing with the power that the FZR can muster.

That just my opinion tho.

[yamaha_george]

I myself would be leery of installing a much wider than stock tire at one end of any bike.

Wider is not always better. Wide can ruin the fine handling of many bikes that were not engineered for such wide rubber.

And when you go really wide at the rear and not have a corresponding increase in width at the front you change the oversteer/understeer/neutral balance of the bike. Bikes I have ridden with really wide rears, and 'normal' fronts feel like they want to push the front end around.

One of the things I like about the FZR is its' very fine handling. That handling is predicated on a range of factors..chassis geometry(which onteh FZR was optimised for the tire widths of its' day), and that balance of front/rear tire width/profile.

And there isn't a 150 out there that isn't capable of dealing with the power that the FZR can muster.

That just my opinion tho.

RR,
+5 on that, to me wide rubber is a " FAD" thing to make your bike look "BAD" and bad it will be for all the reasons you mention.


There is enough rubber solutions out there for 17" rears with out going beyond 150 , yes if you are running 18 rear then you are tied in a bit but there are what 3 makes in 18's :- Bridgestone , Avon, Pirelli but not much in those as to type of rubber / grip variant.

[the_finch]

Wider is not always better. Wide can ruin the fine handling of many bikes that were not engineered for such wide rubber...And there isn't a 150 out there that isn't capable of dealing with the power that the FZR can muster...

RR,
+5 on that, to me wide rubber is a " FAD" thing to make your bike look "BAD" and bad it will be for all the reasons you mention.


There is enough rubber solutions out there for 17" rears with out going beyond 150 , yes if you are running 18 rear then you are tied in a bit but there are what 3 makes in 18's :- Bridgestone , Avon, Pirelli but not much in those as to type of rubber / grip variant.

When I finish the Bandit wheel swap I'm only putting a 150 on there, but the tire profile should make it handle better than my flat-topped Michelin that's on the stock rim right now.

[yamaha_george]

Wider is not always better. Wide can ruin the fine handling of many bikes that were not engineered for such wide rubber...And there isn't a 150 out there that isn't capable of dealing with the power that the FZR can muster...

RR,
+5 on that, to me wide rubber is a " FAD" thing to make your bike look "BAD" and bad it will be for all the reasons you mention.


There is enough rubber solutions out there for 17" rears with out going beyond 150 , yes if you are running 18 rear then you are tied in a bit but there are what 3 makes in 18's :- Bridgestone , Avon, Pirelli but not much in those as to type of rubber / grip variant.

When I finish the Bandit wheel swap I'm only putting a 150 on there, but the tire profile should make it handle better than my flat-topped Michelin that's on the stock rim right now.

Finch ,
yup providing you lay it over in the corners regularly and no burnouts & doughnuts LOL

[95FZR600]

I myself would be leery of installing a much wider than stock tire at one end of any bike.

Wider is not always better. Wide can ruin the fine handling of many bikes that were not engineered for such wide rubber.

And when you go really wide at the rear and not have a corresponding increase in width at the front you change the oversteer/understeer/neutral balance of the bike. Bikes I have ridden with really wide rears, and 'normal' fronts feel like they want to push the front end around.

One of the things I like about the FZR is its' very fine handling. That handling is predicated on a range of factors..chassis geometry(which onteh FZR was optimised for the tire widths of its' day), and that balance of front/rear tire width/profile.

And there isn't a 150 out there that isn't capable of dealing with the power that the FZR can muster.

That just my opinion tho.

RR,
+5 on that, to me wide rubber is a " FAD" thing to make your bike look "BAD" and bad it will be for all the reasons you mention.




There is enough rubber solutions out there for 17" rears with out going beyond 150 , yes if you are running 18 rear then you are tied in a bit but there are what 3 makes in 18's :- Bridgestone , Avon, Pirelli but not much in those as to type of rubber / grip variant.

My bike handles better and looks "RAD" LOL2

[abs929cbrrr]

well as we all know ABS (me because i related to my self in the 3rd person) really liked the 95-07 yzf600r swingarm swap with the 99-02 R6 wheel stuffed in it. bmiller copied me and did the same thing on his yzf600r the r6 wheel swap. its simple and easy and it baffels me why no one else has coppied me

[shredex]

I got my BT014 150/60/18 on my bike and I love the thing.




you cant get much wider without the swingarm swap.
or the gsxr wheel swap.


I heard you can use the 160/60/18 as well, but I just stuck with the 150 just in case.

[kikepiz]

How about a 17 rim, 180 tire can it be done with out a swing arm swap?

[bucket]

I found a 07-09 swing arm for $50 localy, The bigest problem I have with doing a swing arm swap is my rear tire is pretty new LOL. Know the front tire could use a change, any suggestions on that?

[cad600]

How about a 17 rim, 180 tire can it be done with out a swing arm swap?

NO, you would have to swap the swingarm.