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Just died when i was riding (please read)

Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2012 8:12 am
by sfrjosh
hey guy thanks

so i was driving to work the other day and when i was going i saw my temp gauge was Lil higher then normal and was getting high when i was driving but when i was sitting still it was mid-range Lil higher, but seemed ok. start driving to work again and the bike just died....

i have a brand new battery and i fixed all my other issues it charges fine and holds it own with the stator and vr.
i don't recall hearing my fan on the radiator running when it might have ben hot.

i cant think of anything that would cause this

i get soild 'N' light and i get full headlight tail lights everything to be working,
when i hit the start button u here the starter going trying to start the engine but that it..

it sound like it does when i have no gas ( just filled it)

the only think i really played with was the idle screw and i set it to about 1.5 - 2 rpm when it was running but idk

can anyone shed some light on this problem. if anyone willing to help give me idears or things to check i would love to do so
i can pst pic and everything.

thank guys

Re: Just died when i was riding (please read)

Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2012 4:44 pm
by Gizzard1533
Few things to start with...

Do you have a spark on all four plugs, and are they clean?

Are you getting fuel in the cylinder, after cranking it for a while, remove the plug and see if its damp/wet, you dont want it sopping wet but not dry either.

Check the two basics and then get to the difficult bits....

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Re: Just died when i was riding (please read)

Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2012 8:16 pm
by sfrjosh
hey guy,
So Im getting compression in all 4 cylinders, i bought 4 new plugs and they still don't spark.

The old plugs where dry.

I tested the kill switch and it works fine and i tested if i was getting power from the digital ignitor (the orange wire) and that fine. but i still dont get spark from the plugs :headscratch: im confused.

any more advice?

please note: that the bike just stopped, no chop or chug chug, just died

what else should i check or anything else that could cause the bike not to spark

thanks josh

Re: Just died when i was riding (please read)

Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2012 12:34 am
by drummerman
If you got new plugs and still no spark either move to the wires or the coils.

Re: Just died when i was riding (please read)

Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2012 8:19 am
by DonTZ125
sfrjosh wrote:hey guy,
So Im getting compression in all 4 cylinders, i bought 4 new plugs and they still don't spark.

The old plugs where dry.

I tested the kill switch and it works fine and i tested if i was getting power from the digital ignitor (the orange wire) and that fine. but i still dont get spark from the plugs :headscratch: im confused.
Hi, Josh.

Common misconception, but you don't GET power from the TCI via the orange wire. The coils are powered from the switch (Red / White wires), but are GROUNDED through the Orange (cyls 1&4) and Grey (cyls 2&3). This grounding allows current to flow through the coils, building the coil field; when the ignitor box turns the flow OFF, the field collapses in a gi-normous voltage spike through the secondary windings that drives the spark plugs. If the coil driver transistors are dead, you WILL measure battery voltage at the orange wire.

Re: Just died when i was riding (please read)

Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2012 9:37 am
by sfrjosh
hey ok ty guys. for the info im still not sure whats wroung or where i need to go to next.

when i was checking the kill switch and the orange wire for power i also checked the red and white ones coming off the right hand control there was 2 red and white wire both them showed a 12.6 volts or something but only one if the red/white wire died when i hit the switch but i think that how its so post to be.

also how can i check my spark plug wires make sure there good. and how can i check my coils to make sure there alset also.

and last night when i was messing with the spark plugs one of the wires i belive the #3 cord came apart from the wire coming from the coil to the boot that goes over the plug. it looked like it was just presser fitted so i just pressed it back on..

is this a simple fix or an i almost drowning in the water? should i take it to a dealer and get my charged a arm and a leg? banghead

thanks for all you help and i love the info ( i would love to be able to fix it my self, but i dont have the strongest skills in engines but i want to learn lol Noob

thanks josh