Page 1 of 1
Purolator Pure-One Oil Filters
Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2011 3:21 pm
by pefrey
From the Purolator Website:
http://www.purolatorautofilters.net/pro ... lters.aspx
"If you're thinking you want to install a PureONE oil filter on your bike, please think again. PureONE oil filters are designed for vehicles, not bikes. Because of PureONE's high efficiency, the motorcycle oil pump may not be able to handle the pressure. The Purolator motorcycle filter line is designed to meet the specific needs of a bike; therefore we highly recommend the use of a Purolator ML filter over a PureONE oil filter."
I am currently using the PureONE on my bike. I think Purolator is just using marketing tactics to sell a more expensive motorcycle specific filter. I really can't see Purolator spending the money on the R&D to make a motorcycle specific line of filters that will account for less than .0000001 % of sales. I think they just took existing filters and rebranded them with new paint and model numbers. What say you?
Re: Purolator Pure-One Oil Filters
Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2011 4:24 pm
by DonTZ125
PureONE oil filters are designed for vehicles, not bikes.
Ok... Shall I explain then to the nice constable that I don't have to carry insurance, because this bike isn't a 'vehicle'? Purolator said so!
What an astonishingly stupid comment...
As to whether it's suitable for a bike, I'd be interested in what they claim the pressure losses are through a PureONE filter vs one of their ML filters.
Re: Purolator Pure-One Oil Filters
Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2011 4:34 pm
by pefrey
Doesn't most of the oil go through the bypass anyway? I mean, if there's a restriction problem which I doubt there is, it would just go through the bypass. Also, a car has to push just as much or more oil through the filter. Yes, cars don't rev as high but the engine is 4x the size and oil is at least 2x in amount.
Re: Purolator Pure-One Oil Filters
Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2011 6:35 pm
by ragedigital
Sounds like a load of crap to me. I would venture to say that they are like other companies out there that want to charge more for "motorcycle specific" products that are no different than their automobile equivalents.
On average, motorcycle filters are 2-3x the cost of automobile equivalents and for what - packaging?
Re: Purolator Pure-One Oil Filters
Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2011 12:57 am
by sweekster
Heh. I run those filters on my bike-always have. No issues.
Re: Purolator Pure-One Oil Filters
Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2011 8:36 am
by pefrey
Actually, their own statement does not make sense (apart from the "made for vehicles, not motorcycles" statement).
Because of PureONE's high efficiency, the motorcycle oil pump may not be able to handle the pressure.
One definition of efficiency is : accomplishment of or ability to accomplish a job with a minimum expenditure of time and effort.
It sounds like Purolator is saying that the motorcycle oil pump will have to work harder, get where I'm going with this?
Re: Purolator Pure-One Oil Filters
Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2011 8:46 am
by Freestyle72
pefrey wrote:Actually, their own statement does not make sense (apart from the "made for vehicles, not motorcycles" statement).
Because of PureONE's high efficiency, the motorcycle oil pump may not be able to handle the pressure.
One definition of efficiency is : accomplishment of or ability to accomplish a job with a minimum expenditure of time and effort.
It sounds like Purolator is saying that the motorcycle oil pump will have to work harder, get where I'm going with this?
That's not really right in the sense of efficiency of a filter.
Unfortunately with things like filters, the more you filter, typically the more pressure there has to be for the liquid or gas to flow through the small holes. If purolator claims better filtrations I would assume there is higher pressure from that unit. There aren't any major leaders in terms of filtration technology, they are all basically playing on a level field so the only variable to flow and such is design and intent.
Re: Purolator Pure-One Oil Filters
Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2011 9:10 am
by DonTZ125
pefrey wrote:Doesn't most of the oil go through the bypass anyway? I mean, if there's a restriction problem which I doubt there is, it would just go through the bypass. Also, a car has to push just as much or more oil through the filter. Yes, cars don't rev as high but the engine is 4x the size and oil is at least 2x in amount.
The oil should ALL flow through the filter. Dumping most of the oil through the bypass renders the filter rather moot, and comes under the heading of Bad Thing (TM). The bypass is there in case of a blockage in the filter so your engine doesn't get starved by this obstruction in the flow path, the theory being dirty oil is better than no oil at all!
Re: Purolator Pure-One Oil Filters
Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2011 9:33 am
by pefrey
If Purolator is using the word "effieciency" to mean "effectiveness" then they are misleading. I don't think they are interchangeable.
Also, shouldn't they rate filters based on oil weight? I mean, the filter can't process the same amount of 50W oil as 20W oil in the same time frame.