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Help...leaking gas

Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2010 8:58 pm
by Cognac
so noticed that a big pool of gas leaked out overnight........about a gallon! WTF

Re: Help...leaking gas

Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2010 9:24 pm
by KaMaKaZeE_FZR1
floats might be stuck. can you tell where the gas is coming from? Its probably from running ethanol, it has a tendancy to gum up the carbs. Try some fuel system cleaner and be sure to open and close your choke multiple times to help break down/clear out some of the trash

Re: Help...leaking gas

Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2010 10:17 pm
by apsolus
carbs buddy and someone is gonna get on your ass about leaving your petcock open.

Re: Help...leaking gas

Posted: Thu Dec 02, 2010 11:36 am
by Cognac
apsolus wrote:carbs buddy and someone is gonna get on your ass about leaving your petcock open.

got it! still a noob....be gentle

Re: Help...leaking gas

Posted: Thu Dec 02, 2010 12:05 pm
by yamaha_george
Hmm, petcock open /closed should not matter the carbs mechanism is meant to deal with that on any bike.

Re: Help...leaking gas

Posted: Thu Dec 02, 2010 12:40 pm
by Cognac
yamaha_george wrote:Hmm, petcock open /closed should not matter the carbs mechanism is meant to deal with that on any bike.

true....gonna have the floats checked

Re: Help...leaking gas

Posted: Thu Dec 02, 2010 4:42 pm
by Fizzinatorr
Why have them checked when you can do it yourself?

There's a ton of information on this forum and in the wiki to help you

also you an get a haynes or clymer manual for about 25.00

I needed my first FZR 600's carbs synched and they told me something crazy like 400.00 - surprising that shop folded....but it got me looking on FZR Online in the first place

You can do it! We can help too :)

Re: Help...leaking gas

Posted: Thu Dec 02, 2010 11:46 pm
by apsolus
george, if the petcock was closed he wouldnt have a gallon of fuel on the ground.

cog, good thing your bike vents to the atmosphere and not the crankcase.

Re: Help...leaking gas

Posted: Fri Dec 03, 2010 12:30 am
by McFizzer
I remember having a discussion on the archives about this, having to turn the petcock off because the fzr will constantly let fuel into the carbs and then overflow BUT the problem in that scenario was it was dumping into the crankcase which I thought would've been a sticky float...

As fizz said man, you're on a forum...LEARN we're here as a family to help each other and for the love of the bike... carbs are a breeze, just LEARN what does what and it'll all come together and ill certainly save you're wallet a hefty chunk...

Re: Help...leaking gas

Posted: Fri Dec 03, 2010 5:53 am
by yamaha_george
apsolus wrote:george, if the petcock was closed he wouldnt have a gallon of fuel on the ground.

cog, good thing your bike vents to the atmosphere and not the crankcase.
A,
A petcock that says it is in the closed ain't actually always so, guess how i know :-}

FZR's have fuel pump do they not? If the petcock was open and it drained the tank thro the carbs why does the bike need a pump ? Just asking .........................

Re: Help...leaking gas

Posted: Fri Dec 03, 2010 12:26 pm
by racerd14666
apsolus wrote:george, if the petcock was closed he wouldnt have a gallon of fuel on the ground.

cog, good thing your bike vents to the atmosphere and not the crankcase.

when you have a leak that size gas pretty much always gets into the cylinder and drains into the oil, i mean think about it the fuel outlets are lower then the vents. and if its ben sitting you might not smell it if u open the fill cap cus gas is lighter than oil but you will notice your oil level is high and when you drain the oil you will get a nice whiff of gas or if you let it go for awhile you will notice your oil turning a spicy brown mustard color or even green some times depending on the gas and the oil. ive even seen them on bikes that sat over the winter were you can see the separation of the gas and oil in the sight glass.

but tearing the carbs down isnt a hard task to do as long as you have a impact driver with quality bits, ive seen one newbie at the shop use a harbor freight one and broke the throat of the carb pounding away and the bits would twist and become useless. and while you have it apart replace the philips screws with allens its only like 4 bux for all 16 screws and they come apart so much easier

Re: Help...leaking gas

Posted: Fri Dec 03, 2010 12:28 pm
by racerd14666
yamaha_george wrote:
apsolus wrote:george, if the petcock was closed he wouldnt have a gallon of fuel on the ground.


FZR's have fuel pump do they not? If the petcock was open and it drained the tank thro the carbs why does the bike need a pump ? Just asking .........................

for when the gas tank is half full or so when the gas line is below the float bowls

Re: Help...leaking gas

Posted: Fri Dec 03, 2010 12:36 pm
by yamaha_george
racerd14666 wrote:
yamaha_george wrote:
apsolus wrote:george, if the petcock was closed he wouldnt have a gallon of fuel on the ground.


FZR's have fuel pump do they not? If the petcock was open and it drained the tank thro the carbs why does the bike need a pump ? Just asking .........................

for when the gas tank is half full or so when the gas line is below the float bowls
On my bike the pump primes itself every start up (as does everyone elses ) is that just a precaution ? Are there in fact two routes for gas into the carbs..............................

Re: Help...leaking gas

Posted: Fri Dec 03, 2010 5:41 pm
by McFizzer
When I turn my petcock off, no fuel comes out.. lol

So the 600's use a low psi fuel pump ehhh. I'll find that post on the archives when the server decides not to be a jerk if no one else knows what ima talkin bought

Re: Help...leaking gas

Posted: Fri Dec 03, 2010 6:27 pm
by yamaha_george
McFizzer wrote:When I turn my petcock off, no fuel comes out.. lol

So the 600's use a low psi fuel pump ehhh. I'll find that post on the archives when the server decides not to be a jerk if no one else knows what ima talkin bought
McF,
on a 18 year old bike you are lucky if it is the original, I tend to rebuild or replace mine every 15 years as I have found that is safe bet that after that time they are so worn as to dribble.

Mind you Modern petcocks might be better than those prior to '92 as mine was oozing gas when I bought the bike 3 years ago I only noticed it because I had the bike apart on arrival to check the pump /carbs/ and other fluids. It dripped after the pump inlet line was taken off, had I left the line in place and the pump seal being sound as it was there would have been no visible leak.

it is thus that I wondered about there being a 2nd route for fuel to the carbs OR that the fuel is bypassing the pump in some manner ..............................