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still running rich

Posted: Sun Mar 22, 2009 10:41 pm
by shredex
My bike is running awesome and has great performance...and yet...
my nice clean exhaust I just put on is now coated with a nice layer of black crap.
I have my mixture screws set at 1 1/2 turns out. people usually have theres at 2 or 2 1/2.
my needle clip is set on the first setting from the top.
should I move it to the second notch and start from there?
I just dont see how im still running rich

Re: still running rich

Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2009 8:04 am
by csofos
Have you got any jet change? If the jets are bigger, then the rich running it's logical. If you rise the needles (ie 2nd position or more) you'll ger richer running. What do you mean whaen you say rich??? What is your midlle fuel consumption?

Re: still running rich

Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2009 8:46 am
by tommyj27
Replacing the emulsion tubes made a huge difference on my fizz. Mine would run rich no matter what setting I used.

Re: still running rich

Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2009 9:55 am
by deathcomesarippin
has it been doing this since you put that header and the new can on? bring it over to my place sometime and we can mess with it

Re: still running rich

Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2009 10:33 am
by shredex
its been running rich since I got it.
I checked my emulsion tubes just about 2 months ago and no wear.

Re: still running rich

Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2009 11:32 am
by sweekster
You may need to resynch. I'd start there

Re: still running rich

Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2009 11:42 am
by haunter
its pretty hard to eyeball emulsion tube wear

Re: still running rich

Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2009 1:01 pm
by tommyj27
haunter wrote:its pretty hard to eyeball emulsion tube wear
+1, I Looked at mine a dozen times and they looked fine. Darrin finally convinced me to replace them. They seem to wear out after about 12k miles.

Re: still running rich

Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2009 1:18 pm
by deathcomesarippin
im just a noob Noob ,but I dunno could be wrong (most of the time haha) but I though if the emulsion tubes where bad it could lean it out instead of it going rich?

and this thing is awesome! squid

Re: still running rich

Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2009 1:40 pm
by shredex
haunter wrote:its pretty hard to eyeball emulsion tube wear

I actually did more than just eyeball
I used a magnifying glass and also took up close pics of them and blew them up on my computer to check for wear.


i think maybe I could use individual pod filters or dual filter and this would bring better air flow and my richness will subside.
I only have a k&n drop in filter.

Re: still running rich

Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2009 6:04 pm
by tommyj27
deathcomesarippin wrote:im just a noob Noob ,but I dunno could be wrong (most of the time haha) but I though if the emulsion tubes where bad it could lean it out instead of it going rich?

and this thing is awesome! squid
(Someone correct me if I'm wrong) As the tubes wear they enlarge internally, allowing more fuel to flow around the needle and creating the rich condition that we know and love.

Re: still running rich

Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2009 6:18 pm
by sweekster
tommyj27 wrote: (Someone correct me if I'm wrong) As the tubes wear they enlarge internally, allowing more fuel to flow around the needle and creating the rich condition that we know and love.
Cannot correct what is already correct.

Re: still running rich

Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2009 6:52 pm
by fzrbrandon
Hey Shredex,

You may want to double-check your float height.

*EDIT* Oh, and don't switch to pods just to try and rectify a richness problems. You'd be opening up another can of worms there.

Brandon

Re: still running rich

Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2009 8:18 pm
by deathcomesarippin
sweekster wrote:
tommyj27 wrote: (Someone correct me if I'm wrong) As the tubes wear they enlarge internally, allowing more fuel to flow around the needle and creating the rich condition that we know and love.
Cannot correct what is already correct.

ok cool thanks for clearing it up for me!

Re: still running rich

Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2009 9:29 pm
by reelrazor
"first setting from the top"

"1 &1/2 turns out"

And: "rich"

= does not compute

at least without what someone else here suggested...check float heights and most likely lower them a little