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FZ1 Shock?

Posted: Sat Nov 22, 2008 10:07 pm
by deernet
So is the FZ1 rear shock a direct bolt on? I've heard conflicting answers. Do you have to have custom spacers machined, or can you just use washers?

I'm assuming this shock would be stiffer than stock, but I believe it has alot more adjustment?

I'm wondering which would be easier to install, this or the R6 shock, which I believe has to have custom spacers machined.

Re: FZ1 Shock?

Posted: Sat Nov 22, 2008 10:11 pm
by haunter
you can use washers if you want

has more adjustment, better valving but a weaker spring

you have to grind a lil bit off the inside of the bottom of the stock spring to get it to fit on the FZ1 shock

Re: FZ1 Shock?

Posted: Sat Nov 22, 2008 10:21 pm
by deernet
So you have to swap springs?

Re: FZ1 Shock?

Posted: Sun Nov 23, 2008 3:45 am
by sweekster
That is correct. FZ1 spring isn't heavy enough to support the old fizzer. So unless you want to go spend money on a brand new spring, swapper in the FZR spring is the best bet. Needs a few millimeters filed from the top and bottom of the spring but you golden after that.

Re: FZ1 Shock?

Posted: Mon May 18, 2009 10:08 am
by boyoboy
good day,

is the bike you did the fz1 shock swap on a 400 or 600?

is the 600 shock spring stiffer than the 400 spring?

the fz1 shock spring is listed as 7.6kg/mm. does anyone know the shock spring rates for the 400 & 600?

it was mentioned a few mm had to be ground off the fzr spring. is this grinding done to shorten the spring length or is it width narrowed?

thanks.

Re: FZ1 Shock?

Posted: Mon May 18, 2009 10:25 am
by shredex
alls i know, is that i have a fz1 shock with fzr spring on my bike...no clue how it got there...its just there and im happy with it.

there is one problem though. I have custom bones that allowes me to either raise/stock/or lower the rear.
i have it set to raise the rear and the bottom of my shock touchs the swingarm and i believe its made a grove into it...but thats just a problem if you raise it...iv got probably 3K miles on it like that and its been fine...

Re: FZ1 Shock?

Posted: Mon May 18, 2009 12:19 pm
by the_finch
I posted an answer in the other FZ1 shock thread a minute or two ago.

http://www.fzronline.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=3720

A write up on installation, gotcha's, and tuning is on the way.

Re: FZ1 Shock?

Posted: Mon May 18, 2009 7:58 pm
by boyoboy
shredex wrote:alls i know, is that i have a fz1 shock with fzr spring on my bike...no clue how it got there...its just there and im happy with it.

there is one problem though. I have custom bones that allowes me to either raise/stock/or lower the rear.
i have it set to raise the rear and the bottom of my shock touchs the swingarm and i believe its made a grove into it...but thats just a problem if you raise it...iv got probably 3K miles on it like that and its been fine...
i was wondering, does the ride height remain the same with the FZ1 shock - i would require the same height or even better if its raised up a bit. what do you think about the ride ht. with the stock dogbones?

Re: FZ1 Shock?

Posted: Tue May 19, 2009 8:37 am
by the_finch
That's one thing I checked when I did mine...ride height remains the same. Geometry stays the same. Makes it easier to figure what length dogbones you need to raise/lower your ride height, as it is the same as stock.

Re: FZ1 Shock?

Posted: Tue May 19, 2009 9:00 am
by boyoboy
hi,

ride height remains the same - excellent info for me thanks.

it looks like it would be fairly simple to build / install some dogbones that would raise the rear.

how much shorter would i make the dogbones to raise the rear about 1/2" to 5/8"? anyone know?

Re: FZ1 Shock?

Posted: Tue May 19, 2009 10:52 am
by haunter
not sure for that little of a raise.....

Re: FZ1 Shock?

Posted: Thu May 21, 2009 1:22 pm
by boyoboy
haunter wrote:not sure for that little of a raise.....
not sure for that little of a raise....do you know how much of a shorter dogbone = greater ride height, then maybe i could do the math and get a rough estimate for what i'd like?

Re: FZ1 Shock?

Posted: Thu May 21, 2009 3:16 pm
by haunter
its in the wiki, I think its 2.4m raise per mm of shorter dogbone

Re: FZ1 Shock?

Posted: Thu May 21, 2009 5:51 pm
by shredex
of got the custom bones with three settings... for lowering/stock/and raising...mines set on the raise.

but yes, its in the wiki about how much hieght you gain per whatever shorter the bone is.

here ya go
http://fzronline.com/wiki/doku.php?id=dog_bones