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cant get bike into gear

Posted: Mon Mar 24, 2014 5:51 pm
by bhalv
So ive replaced my clutch cable and adjusted the clutch cable all over creation and any time i try to put the bike in gear it dies. what the heck am i doing wrong?

Re: cant get bike into gear

Posted: Mon Mar 24, 2014 7:01 pm
by DonTZ125
Check your sidestand switch - your safety system thinks you're trying to put it in gear with the stand down.

Re: cant get bike into gear

Posted: Mon Mar 24, 2014 8:09 pm
by bhalv
now i can get it into gear but the bike dies when you stand it up, back to the drawing board.

Re: cant get bike into gear

Posted: Mon Mar 24, 2014 8:33 pm
by DonTZ125
bhalv wrote:but the bike dies when you stand it up
Pardon? :headscratch:

Re: cant get bike into gear

Posted: Mon Mar 24, 2014 8:49 pm
by bhalv
DonTZ125 wrote:
bhalv wrote:but the bike dies when you stand it up
Pardon? :headscratch:
That's what I said, as far as i can tell it is some type of idle issue. The bike runs fine and idles at 1600 when the bars are turned to the left/ bike on the side stand. as soon as i straighten the bars out/stand the bike up it dies. no idea what is causing this one. By the way, this bike was shifting fine for the 15 minutes i was able to ride it before it started cutting out. Also during that time, the bike started backfiring under acceleration and then cut out on me, any help would be great here.

Re: cant get bike into gear

Posted: Mon Mar 24, 2014 9:46 pm
by DonTZ125
Check your throttle cable routing, as well as the connectors for your right handle bar switches.

Re: cant get bike into gear

Posted: Mon Mar 24, 2014 10:06 pm
by bhalv
DonTZ125 wrote:Check your throttle cable routing, as well as the connectors for your right handle bar switches.
threw on a new right starter pod, same problem. cant see anything wrong with the cable routing other than they get tight when the bars are turned left, loosen up when they are turned right (which is when the bike cuts out) gonna try re-routing the throttle cables so they have more slack tomorrow.

Re: cant get bike into gear

Posted: Mon Mar 24, 2014 10:16 pm
by DonTZ125
bhalv wrote:they get tight when the bars are turned left, loosen up when they are turned right (which is when the bike cuts out)
There's the other part of the problem. The previous owner installed the cables wrong, then tried to adjust the idle with the cables tight. When you turn the bars to the right and the cables relax, the butterflies are too closed to maintain the idle. Once you've re-routed your throttle cables (the bike probably won't start or idle without a bit of tension on the grip), turn the throttle stop screw in a turn or so, so that it idles. Once it warms up, it'll start to over-rev, so you'll need to turn the throttle stop back down.

Re: cant get bike into gear

Posted: Mon Mar 24, 2014 10:29 pm
by bhalv
DonTZ125 wrote:
bhalv wrote:they get tight when the bars are turned left, loosen up when they are turned right (which is when the bike cuts out)
There's the other part of the problem. The previous owner installed the cables wrong, then tried to adjust the idle with the cables tight. When you turn the bars to the right and the cables relax, the butterflies are too closed to maintain the idle. Once you've re-routed your throttle cables (the bike probably won't start or idle without a bit of tension on the grip), turn the throttle stop screw in a turn or so, so that it idles. Once it warms up, it'll start to over-rev, so you'll need to turn the throttle stop back down.
Just check the cable routing off of the factory manual section 2-23 and they seem to be routed right,ill try resetting the idle tomorrow with the bars set forward. I did notice the lock nuts up on the handlebars were loose so tightened those down. now i just have to recharge my battery and re-try tomorrow.

Re: cant get bike into gear

Posted: Tue Mar 25, 2014 6:29 pm
by bhalv
DonTZ125 wrote:
bhalv wrote:they get tight when the bars are turned left, loosen up when they are turned right (which is when the bike cuts out)
There's the other part of the problem. The previous owner installed the cables wrong, then tried to adjust the idle with the cables tight. When you turn the bars to the right and the cables relax, the butterflies are too closed to maintain the idle. Once you've re-routed your throttle cables (the bike probably won't start or idle without a bit of tension on the grip), turn the throttle stop screw in a turn or so, so that it idles. Once it warms up, it'll start to over-rev, so you'll need to turn the throttle stop back down.
found out it was faulty wiring on the ignition cylinder, the previous owner was by no means a gifted electrician.