Clutch Help - Can't get a smooth gear change

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Clutch Help - Can't get a smooth gear change

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Hello,

Over the past few months my gear changes have gotten less smooth/accurate. The bite point is fine but when I let the clutch out at lower speeds it feels like it is engaging and the engine speed feels like its pauses and is dragging slightly (revs don't rise) then it seems to catch and the clutch engages with a noticeable clunk at the very end of the lever travel (not a clunk you can hear just feel it). At higher speeds there is no drag but I still get that clunk at the end. Going into first at a stop there is a definite clunk that you hear and feel but that seems normal for these bikes. It does not creep at all with the lever pulled in. All the gear changes feel very notchy at the foot lever. Finding neutral at a stop is harder than before.

Very occasionally it wont go into a gear and just grinds, usually when going up to third and higher (That could just be me though).

I have changed the oil (10w40 semi syn), checked the friction plates (all in spec), pressure plates (no blueing or warped plates and all in the right way round) springs are all good. Push rods and ball all good. Done the adjustment at the sprocket cover and clutch lever. Clutch baskets are lined up as they should be and everything torqued properly. The sprocket cover and the gear actuator inside were deep cleaned and greased. No noticeable notching on the clutch basket teeth. Drive chain slack is correct. Cush drives are fine. Foot lever is ok and properly adjusted.

I haven't changed the cable yet, but I don't think this is the issue, (got one on order just to be sure).

Are these early signs of the clutch slipping or something else?
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Re: Clutch Help - Can't get a smooth gear change

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Difficult to find neutral is not uncommon, as is the clunky search for 1st gear. It seems you already know this but I'm just confirming.

Does the oil say "energy conserving" anywhere on the bottle? Most motor oils have friction modifiers in them that don't agree with our wet clutches.

Did you check the clutch basket for grooves? I used to have a good picture of this but a quick google search turned up this which is adequate for description purposes.

http://www.dirtriderz.com/topic/606-fil ... -problems/
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Thanks Pefrey,

I had checked the basket and although I can see dark marks where the friction plates have been contacting the basket but there was no real wear. Ran my finger over all the splines and no noticeable notching to need filing.

Before I was using Silkolene Super 4 semi, changed to Halfords (UK auto factors) own brand part synth - it was on offer and my friend uses it in his vfr750 with no issues. No mention of energy conserving additives. Although the fresh oil made a slight improvement to the smoothness of the gear selector action it wasn't great and certainly no worse than before.
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