Header came loose...
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Re: Header came loose...
So, like copper terminals that have 2 bolt holes?
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Re: Header came loose...
Yeh sort of you do not want copper ones but steel ones (copper will not last 10 mins as the springs will vibration cut thro them )delvryboy wrote:So, like copper terminals that have 2 bolt holes?
Re: Header came loose...
I'm going to pick up the springs tomorrow. Should I use something like throttle return springs, or something heavier?
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Re: Header came loose...
Finally got them. They should look like this. And they should be heavy duty. To get them off takes a serious grip on some pliers or vice grips locked on and pulling hard. Too weak and they won't hold the pipe on.


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Re: Header came loose...
thatkid wrote:Finally got them. They should look like this. And they should be heavy duty. To get them off takes a serious grip on some pliers or vice grips locked on and pulling hard. Too weak and they won't hold the pipe on.
TK,
I notice your spring end just goes over the flange. Do the flanges have alip to hold the end of the spring or a hole ?
Just curious as all the race systems i have used / seen had the tab washers I talked about .
Re: Header came loose...
There is a hole that the spring goes through.

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Re: Header came loose...
I'm about to head out now, I'll check for holes in the flanges.
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Re: Header came loose...
No holes. I got some springs, I just have to figure out how to hook them up top. I'm thinking over-sized washers and slide them to one side.
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Re: Header came loose...

Any thoughts on using an exhaust epoxy for the pipe>coupler? The flange would still float free.
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Re: Header came loose...
delvryboy wrote:No holes. I got some springs, I just have to figure out how to hook them up top. I'm thinking over-sized washers and slide them to one side.
That or drill the hole in the flanges ????????????
Re: Header came loose...
If you know you have springs that will make it, you can bend a right angle sideways (vise and hammer) to the 'hook' end of the spring and then trap that under a bolt head (use IT as a washer-put a normal flat washer on top of the hook.
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Re: Header came loose...
I was thinking the same thingThat or drill the hole in the flanges ????????????
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Re: Header came loose...
I'm sure there is some good reason to use springs, however, I welded the couplers to the pipes. I wasn't happy with how I had the springs on nor the springs I found as well.
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Re: Header came loose...
D,delvryboy wrote:I'm sure there is some good reason to use springs, however, I welded the couplers to the pipes. I wasn't happy with how I had the springs on nor the springs I found as well.
I hope you welded (tacked at least ) while they were on the bike or they will not automatically line up ( Do not ask how I know this ) If you arc welded I hope you disconnected the battery & the TDI as they have a habit of going KIA on you shortly afterwards.
Re: Header came loose...
I tacked them off the bike. Everything lined up pretty good. :thank goodness: I thought about that after the fact. It was a real pain to get the pipes all the way up to the inner lip in the coupler, I doubt I would of been able to do it with the couplers already bolted to the head. I used a liquid exhaust manifold weld inside the coupler and then put a couple tacks per pipe. The couplers are a softer aluminum and I didn't want to burn them up.
I know though, it would of been a disaster had everything not lined up.
On another note, these pipes haven't been all the way in for a long time. It took me 30 minutes to get all of the carbon cleaned out from the inside of the couplers.
I know though, it would of been a disaster had everything not lined up.
On another note, these pipes haven't been all the way in for a long time. It took me 30 minutes to get all of the carbon cleaned out from the inside of the couplers.
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'06 R6 VR * Full OEM Clutch * 14/49 520 Gearing
Seca II Triple w/ Modded Sport Tour Bars * Aztec8 Dual 4" w/ 4100K Halagon lamps * LED Tail/Turn Signals * Vapor Gauges
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130 Dynojet Mains/Pods/Flo-Comander * Full Yoshi Exhaust w/ Custom Can
'06 R6 VR * Full OEM Clutch * 14/49 520 Gearing
Seca II Triple w/ Modded Sport Tour Bars * Aztec8 Dual 4" w/ 4100K Halagon lamps * LED Tail/Turn Signals * Vapor Gauges
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