FZR400 Stator

[Scrappy34]

Hey guys, I've searched the internet a bit but I couldn't find a definitive answer to my question.

I'm repairing a 1989 FZR400 for my first bike. I need to replace the stator, but there aren't a lot of choices online. I was told by an ebay seller (Caltric) that the FZR400 and FZR600 use the same stator. I don't know if this is true, so I figured this would be the best place to ask.

The stator I'm being told to purchase is: http://www.ebay.com/itm/281283872449?ru ... 26_rdc%3D1


Thanks for the help!

[Evilchicken0]

Yes, theyre the same (or at least similar).
The crank cases for the 400 are common to the 600 so quite a few parts are common

[Scrappy34]

Yes, theyre the same (or at least similar).
The crank cases for the 400 are common to the 600 so quite a few parts are common

Thank you for clarifying, I was concerned that it wouldn't fit without modifications. Looks like one more FZR is about to be on the road!

[TomcatMJ]

Sure that this would be adoptable?
2014-05-25-119 by tomcatmj, on Flickr
Left hand is a defective (when i shot the photo,meanwihle restored) left-side motorcover of a 3BF, right hand a left-side mtorocover from a 3HE (same as 3HH) where i had to remove the ring on the inner side so that if fitted to the 3BF (just the little not really needed nose at 7 o´clock on the edge is some millimeters near the one of the 3BF cover,but that doesn´t harm in functionality and fitting)..i guess (don´t really know because i don´t own a 600 but only 2 and 1/2 400s) the stator on the 3HE/3HH is usually mounted on this ring where the stator of the 3BF (and probably the 1WG/3EN Models also) is mounted on the motorcase directly, just behind the Flywheel (shown on next photo):
2014-11-21-340 by tomcatmj, on Flickr
Hope you´re right@Evilchicken0 as it would really be helpful in restoring a 400 to know exactly if these parts are also interchangable between the 400 and the 600...

[Evilchicken0]

In general terms then
The 1WG (so that's Genesis, 2TK SP, and 3EN) are common to the 3HE 600 and some parts of the FZS600 Fazer (early shape)
The 3TJ is generally common to the 4JH Foxeye and 4TV ThunderCat

The flywheel of 1WG is as you show it but the 3TJ is reversed



If you use the flywheel cover from a 600 I think you need to cut the casing to allow the wires to exit.

Feel free to have a look through this 3TJ photbucket library too http://s109.photobucket.com/user/evilch ... /New%203TJ

[TomcatMJ]

Indeed the question stays if the 600s stator is mountable to the motorcase and not only to the cover (which will need the reversed Flywheel and the 600s Cover then) as a ´89 fzr 400 is obviously a Model of the 1WG series (either genesis, 2tk, 3en or 3bf/3fh) ...the 3tj / 4dx series started in 1990

[Scrappy34]

I don't know what a lot of this means, but I'm assuming that the stator I linked in my OP will mount up exactly how the 89 fzr400 stator is mounted? If not, can someone link me to what I need in order for it to fit?

[TomcatMJ]

http://www.ebay.de/itm/E-Yamaha-FZR-400 ... 1392560561 <-This should fit to all 1WG/2TK/3EN/3BF/3FH Models if you cant get a cheaper one nearer to your Location. Just check the first parts of you´re bikes VIN or the first Part before the Dash of your Motornumber to be sure what Model you have exactly.
I guess you´re sitting somewhere in the US or Canada and not in Europe,right? No info in your Profile-Fields given, maybe sometimes easier to help finding parts if you tell us your location...

[Scrappy34]

http://www.ebay.de/itm/E-Yamaha-FZR-400 ... 1392560561 <-This should fit to all 1WG/2TK/3EN/3BF/3FH Models if you cant get a cheaper one nearer to your Location. Just check the first parts of you´re bikes VIN or the first Part before the Dash of your Motornumber to be sure what Model you have exactly.
I guess you´re sitting somewhere in the US or Canada and not in Europe,right? No info in your Profile-Fields given, maybe sometimes easier to help finding parts if you tell us your location...

I'm in the United States, which probably explains why its hard to find this part.

what will it take to get the 1989 FZR600 stator to fit?

[TomcatMJ]

Do you have direct access to a flatbed-scanner and the original stator from your 400 already dismounted? If yes, just du a 1:1 scaled scan of the original stator and post it here,maybe someone actually having a 600s stator dismounted in a parts-box might put a 1:1 scaled printout of your scan to the 600s stator for cmoparision and might give some feedback about the sizes and position of the mounting-holes for checking of possible fitment
I had successfully gone this way for getting information about the measurements of the alternators cover for my 3BF in the past in the german FZR-Forum and so got the 600s cover on the photo some postings before in this thread her

[Evilchicken0]

We're talking about older and newer versions of the FZR400 and their nearest relative the FZR600. The USA got a parts bin special the 3BF, Japan and later the civilised world got the better models, which break down into the 1WG (and it's sub variants) and 3TJ models

Anyway - back to you're problem
Penny to a pound the stator is still on the bike ?
You'll need to take the alternator cover off - you'll see the flywheel and the stator behind it, your mission is to get the flywheel off. You need to hold the flywheel to undo the bolt with a breaker bar then you'll need a puller and a heatgun, it's straight forward but a bit of a f*ck to actually do.

[Scrappy34]

We're talking about older and newer versions of the FZR400 and their nearest relative the FZR600. The USA got a parts bin special the 3BF, Japan and later the civilised world got the better models, which break down into the 1WG (and it's sub variants) and 3TJ models

Anyway - back to you're problem
Penny to a pound the stator is still on the bike ?
You'll need to take the alternator cover off - you'll see the flywheel and the stator behind it, your mission is to get the flywheel off. You need to hold the flywheel to undo the bolt with a breaker bar then you'll need a puller and a heatgun, it's straight forward but a bit of a f*ck to actually do.

Yea, the stator is still on the bike. I'll be taking it off this weekend when I have some free time. I'll be replacing it with this stator: http://www.ebay.com/itm/281283872449?ru ... 26_rdc%3D1

hopefully it fits

[Evilchicken0]

Do you have a flywheel puller ?
I think you can use the bar end

[DonTZ125]

I want to say I've read the rear axle is also the correct size. This is purely hearsay; I've never done it myself.

[TomcatMJ]

viewtopic.php?p=103535#p103535 <-In tazwars99´s Thread there is a pic of a 3EN2 Alternator,looks really similar to the one from the first Link...so i guess theres a good chance it fits really