replacing left switches...wiring issues

[match417]

i'm starting the r6 conversion as soon as i get sides. and yeah, the relay worked, thanks a lot man.

[95FZR600]

When I wired in the oil light to my r6 gauges I had to install a relay but I used one from autozone and so far it has worked out great. That may be what you have to do. I looked at it a little last night but need more time to help you.

iv got no extra relays on my bike, but my oil light works...



as for you match, I like the whole choke on the control thing.
you can only do that with the yzf carbs though...
after you get the carbs on you should dyno it and see if it makes any diff....

Your gauges are not even fully wired in are they? Did you ever drill (speed sensor) the hole for the speedo to work?

[hawklord]

I know I've arrived late in this thread but would the 5 wires have something to do with the
automatic cancel circuit. Both my FZRs '87 thou and '93 600 have self cancel.

[match417]

I know I've arrived late in this thread but would the 5 wires have something to do with the
automatic cancel circuit. Both my FZRs '87 thou and '93 600 have self cancel.

i didn't even think of that..that makes the most sense of anything yet. and it explains the 2nd wire coming from the relay and why it connects directly to the ground. I'm gonna have to test that out now and see if that is what it does.

[shredex]

Your gauges are not even fully wired in are they? Did you ever drill (speed sensor) the hole for the speedo to work?

the only thing not wired is the speed sensor.
but all my stuff works (turn signal/nutrual/oil/fuel/rpms)

[95FZR600]

Your gauges are not even fully wired in are they? Did you ever drill (speed sensor) the hole for the speedo to work?

the only thing not wired is the speed sensor.
but all my stuff works (turn signal/nutrual/oil/fuel/rpms)

How is your tach hooked up? Do you have the tach box?


Glad to see you got your controls working. That is some good info.

[match417]

The switches are wired in to the bike, but there is still an issue that I originally had with the turn signals that I thought was something with the switch since it did this before. My left signal blinks fine, but my right signal is a running light/turn signal. So when it isn't blinking, it's on. Then when it's blinking it dims and blinks its normal running brightness, dims and blinks its normal running brightness, dims and blinks its normal running brightness. This would be fine if i could get the other side to do it, but it's only the right side that does it, the left side blinks on off on off on off. This isn't a switch issue I don't think, it did it before when i had my stock switches on. This might be due to my front right blinker not being connected now that I think about it. I'll figure it out and post something later.

I listed what wires are wired together below. I'm wiring my horn separately because i'm wiring in a car horn, and i'm just using the wires to connect it, this is why they aren't connected in the picture below.

Right handlebar - match all colors to all colors, every wire color is the same between the two.
Left handlebar:
horn - YZF black/white and FZR pink (black/white does not go through the plugs that plug into the harness, it is the one that I have extended in the picture below)
headlight - connect yellow to yellow(high), YZF red/yellow to FZR blue/black, connect green to green (low)
turn signals - dark green to dark green (Right), brown/white to brown/white (from relay pack), YZF brown/gray to FZR dark brown (left), ground the FZR yellow/red (NOT RED/YELLOW!) to the frame
clutch - blue/yellow to blue/yellow, and black/yellow to black/yellow (these should be on their own separate plug to plug into the harness)

oh, and i forgot to mention, a lot of the colors look similar on the YZF if it's dirty, also there are 4 brown wires I think and I kept getting confused between them, so i taped them and marked them. So i would recommend everyone that wants to try this to use an ohmmeter to test the switches and make sure you have to right wire.

[match417]

AHA! i think i found the problem with the weird blinking habit. My headlight wiring harness has been rewired and looks like crap. The whole thing is wrapped in electrical tape and is all twisted up. I'll post updates

[match417]

so I am having some wiring issues with the bike. My right turn signals have been acting up for the past year or so. Now it's time for my safety inspection and I have to figure out what it is. I thought it was the switch giving me the problem because the internals were gunky and didn't move very well when I checked it out a while ago. So now I've changed the switch, and put working bulbs on the front again, nothing has changed except that my new LED lights just make the problem look better than it did before. I can't guarantee that the YZF switches that I modified to work on my bike actually do work on my bike, so if anyone out there was wanting to follow my rewire then you should probably wait until I find what is wrong with the harness so my blinkers work again.

Anyway, I'm sure there is a crossed or pinched wire somewhere, and I think it's the blue headlight wire and a turn signal wire somewhere. My headlight has been working off an on, I've always had to jiggle the wires on the harness under the tank whenever it would go out. Now it's still out but high beam works fine, and my left side signal works fine, the right side signal is just a light that's always on, and it blinks dim to signal. It even does it with a front bulb, I really wanna just put a whole YZF harness, CDI, relays, and everything else on it to avoid troubleshooting, it would definitely be easier since most everything else on my bike is YZF.

[shredex]

could be the flasher relay

[yamaha_george]

M,
weirdo blinking irregular is possible if the back or front bulb on that side are not matched to the relay.

If you had bulbs originally for instance then swapped out to LED's then they would blink so fast as to make your eyes water.
The relay are designed to work with a PAIR of bulbs rated (may be 2* 5 watt bulbs) to blink at the required LEGAL limit, any other wattage will mess with the blink rate.

Checking bulbs on an incorrectly winking bike is a first do. If they are matched RH check to see the LH match & they are the same as the RH,

Then you can chase the problem in the harness if need be.............

[match417]

could be the flasher relay

i doubt it, the left side signals work perfectly, and the right side has issues, the flasher relay just sends the flashing signal, it's split off to the right and left through the switch.

M,
weirdo blinking irregular is possible if the back or front bulb on that side are not matched to the relay.

If you had bulbs originally for instance then swapped out to LED's then they would blink so fast as to make your eyes water.
The relay are designed to work with a PAIR of bulbs rated (may be 2* 5 watt bulbs) to blink at the required LEGAL limit, any other wattage will mess with the blink rate.

Checking bulbs on an incorrectly winking bike is a first do. If they are matched RH check to see the LH match & they are the same as the RH,

Then you can chase the problem in the harness if need be.............

yeah, i thought about that, but both of my front bulbs and both of my rear LED bulbs are the same, and the left side works perfectly. I'm gonna check the amperage on both of the front bulbs and make sure they are the same though, its possible that the front bulbs are different types that just happen to fit my fixtures.

[sweekster]

You may wanna open up the left side switch again (if you haven't already). I don't know how it is on the YZF switch but I remember when I had my 92 600 on 2 occasions I had to open up the left switch and re solder the headlight wire because the it came apart from the switch. As for the turn signals here's a question, Are you using 3 wire signals up front and using them for a running light as well as blinkers? If so theres a wire crossed somewhere. Are the LED one's just blinking too fast? Might need some resistors or load balnacers to slow them down. It's pretty much a back to basics situation with this one.

[match417]

You may wanna open up the left side switch again (if you haven't already). I don't know how it is on the YZF switch but I remember when I had my 92 600 on 2 occasions I had to open up the left switch and re solder the headlight wire because the it came apart from the switch. As for the turn signals here's a question, Are you using 3 wire signals up front and using them for a running light as well as blinkers? If so theres a wire crossed somewhere. Are the LED one's just blinking too fast? Might need some resistors or load balnacers to slow them down. It's pretty much a back to basics situation with this one.

i had to rebuild the YZF switch, i took both of the switches apart a few months ago when I first picked up the yzf switch so I could see the difference between the two turn signal switch setups. When i did it i didn't put the yzf switch back together right, so i took it apart last week and put it back together right, i tested continuity on it, double checked and triple checked. but now i'm thinking about checking it again.... While i had it apart I noticed the contact points were dirty, i cleaned them and made sure everything was put back right. Every button and/or switch had continuity as it should, which is why i don't really think it's the switch. But something could have happened while i was putting it on the bars. I doubt it's the solder coming apart, the switch is only 4 years old, and everything seemed fine when I had it apart.

As far as the 3 wires on the turn signals, i have the running light disconnected on both of the signals, it has been disconnected since i got the bike and never was an issue.

[match417]

I had to put my notes somewhere where i can go to them later, thought i would share it with you guys

*double checked switch wiring (for the 4th time) - OK
*turned right turn signal on through switches, headlight not on, turn signal light shining on gauge cluster and not blinking, right rear signal blinks bright then dim, front does not blink.
*turned left turn signal on through switches, headlight not on, turn signal light shining on gauge cluster and not blinking, front left and rear left signal works perfectly.
*swapped front right and left turn signal, both signals work fine
*removed switch
*jumped connections on the harness to simulate headlight low beam - no headlight, gauge turn signal light stays on
*disconnected jumper on headlight
*jumped connections on the harness to simulate left turn signal w/o right front signal plugged in - all lights blink
*jumped connections on the harness to simulate left turn signal w/ right front signal plugged in - all lights blink except right front
*jumped connections on the harness to simulate right turn signal w/o right front signal plugged in - no lights blink

looks like there's a crossed wire for headlight low beam, possibly green (headlight low beam) and dark green (right turn signal)

now i've gotta find it