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I have been working on a valve spring compressor design for a few years, well here it is. At 13 ounces, this compressor will allow you to swap springs , seals, and keepers with the head still on the engine , you won't have to waste a head gasket anymore doing vavletrain work.

With just 9Lbs of down force on the handle, you can have the spring off the valve in under 15 seconds ! then you simply slide the compressor over to the next valve and repeat the process.

With this compressor you can have ALL springs removed in under 5 minutes, which is extremely important at the race track or engine shop. The compressor head design will not allow the keepers to fall down into the oil passages, preventing engine teardown to find lost keepers further saving time.

Of course something this cool is from modking. That's awesome man!

You still haven't lost your edge.

That is slick as hell!!!

wtb head tool

man u never cease to amaze us with these new inventions .. are you going to patent that thing ,if not .. can i .... maybe mass production

not sure if i'll mess with patents, the last time i did that it cost me $800, plus they wanted 10K just to take the idea to conventions.
I think i'll just take care of my fellow fzr/yzf riders for now.

Patents have been turned into a tool almost exclusively for use by large corporations to be able to buy and sell ideas. They are essentially inaccessible for the garage inventor these days due to the high cost of registering ($300 for a physical patent IIRC) plus the money you need to spend on lawyers (thousands). On top of that, the USPTO has moved the burden of liability out of their hands and into that of the registrant. This is what I would say is the steamiest pile of bullshit in the whole thing as it leaves you liable if some one claims prior art (since it's your job to research that) and also allows unscrupulous companies to patent just about anything they want, despite the fact that some one may have already registered the exact same thing. You could literally take some one else's patent out of the archives, replace their name with yours and refile it. The USPTO does very little of their own research and as long as you don't you "find" any prior art, you'll most likely get your patent.

This whole giant mess came about from a court ruling in Texas in the 90s that allowed "business processes" to be patented. This opened the flood gates to millions of new things to be patented and since the whole concept was brand new, no one knew the rules that dictated these type of patents. This led to all sorts of ridiculous things being patented, like clicking a button to initiate an action (this was actually patented by Amazon, it has since been invalidated but only after much legal wrangling). As plainly obvious as this should be (and therefore not patentable), many such patents were issued and continue to be. This now allowed the patent holder to go and sue any one who was "infringing" on their patent, which works out to just about any one they want to.

This whole clusterfuck massively increased the caseload of the USPTO so they shifted the rules around to put more burden on the filers shoulders. Of course lots of special interest groups with lots of money heavily influenced these new rules and unsurprisingly, they now strongly favor those who had the most cash to throw around. Namely, giant corporations.

The whole idea of patents was to provide incentive for innovation by granting the inventor a window of time to be the exclusive benefactor of their invention. The perversion of the rules has morphed the system into a tool to make lawyers rich by walking on the backs of the people doing the innovating. The current system is now a huge roadblock to innovation because only the wealthiest people/companies can afford to defend themselves against the tidal wave of frivolous lawsuits by every douche bag who wants to claim you violated their patent.

In my opinion - and mind you, I'm no lawyer - if you're not planning on licensing it, you're better off just making your design public. You won't be able sue people for infringement but you will have established prior art which means you can have the patent of someone ripping you off invalidated. It's totally up to you make sure that this doesn't happen.

Sorry for the long post but this issue really boils my blood. The current arrangement is exactly the opposite of what the system was intended to be and it's making too many people too much money for it to be fixed.

zero9243 wrote:Of course something this cool is from modking. That's awesome man!

Mod King that begs the question what is the bottom line for FZROnline members ?

Luke-a-Tron wrote:Patents have been turned into a tool almost exclusively for use by large corporations to be able to buy and sell ideas. They are essentially inaccessible for the garage inventor these days due to the high cost of registering ($300 for a physical patent IIRC) plus the money you need to spend on lawyers (thousands). On top of that, the USPTO has moved the burden of liability out of their hands and into that of the registrant. This is what I would say is the steamiest pile of bullshit in the whole thing as it leaves you liable if some one claims prior art (since it's your job to research that) and also allows unscrupulous companies to patent just about anything they want, despite the fact that some one may have already registered the exact same thing. You could literally take some one else's patent out of the archives, replace their name with yours and refile it. The USPTO does very little of their own research and as long as you don't you "find" any prior art, you'll most likely get your patent.

This whole giant mess came about from a court ruling in Texas in the 90s that allowed "business processes" to be patented. This opened the flood gates to millions of new things to be patented and since the whole concept was brand new, no one knew the rules that dictated these type of patents. This led to all sorts of ridiculous things being patented, like clicking a button to initiate an action (this was actually patented by Amazon, it has since been invalidated but only after much legal wrangling). As plainly obvious as this should be (and therefore not patentable), many such patents were issued and continue to be. This now allowed the patent holder to go and sue any one who was "infringing" on their patent, which works out to just about any one they want to.

This whole clusterfuck massively increased the caseload of the USPTO so they shifted the rules around to put more burden on the filers shoulders. Of course lots of special interest groups with lots of money heavily influenced these new rules and unsurprisingly, they now strongly favor those who had the most cash to throw around. Namely, giant corporations.

The whole idea of patents was to provide incentive for innovation by granting the inventor a window of time to be the exclusive benefactor of their invention. The perversion of the rules has morphed the system into a tool to make lawyers rich by walking on the backs of the people doing the innovating. The current system is now a huge roadblock to innovation because only the wealthiest people/companies can afford to defend themselves against the tidal wave of frivolous lawsuits by every douche bag who wants to claim you violated their patent.

In my opinion - and mind you, I'm no lawyer - if you're not planning on licensing it, you're better off just making your design public. You won't be able sue people for infringement but you will have established prior art which means you can have the patent of someone ripping you off invalidated. It's totally up to you make sure that this doesn't happen.

Sorry for the long post but this issue really boils my blood. The current arrangement is exactly the opposite of what the system was intended to be and it's making too many people too much money for it to be fixed.

you sir are completely right. After filing for patents at work, I dont see how any average joe can even think about trying to patent something. The costs involved are ridiculous.

yamaha_george wrote:

zero9243 wrote:Of course something this cool is from modking. That's awesome man!

Mod King that begs the question what is the bottom line for FZROnline members ?

probably around $50 USD for members george .

modkingfzr600 wrote:

yamaha_george wrote:

zero9243 wrote:Of course something this cool is from modking. That's awesome man!

Mod King that begs the question what is the bottom line for FZROnline members ?

probably around $50 USD for members george .

MK,
That is a good price, but for those who are new to this thread you need to replace your pictures they have vanished !!!

I will need one I need to do a valve check after next season....

just hit me up when you guy's need one , this is an item that i will be able to make for an indefinate amount of time.

yamaha_george wrote: MK,
That is a good price, but for those who are new to this thread you need to replace your pictures they have vanished !!!

should use imageshack.us for image hosting...I use that and myspace as my image hosters...and myspace automaticaly resizes the pics to a nice 600pixal width