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Ducati Diavel has a MAJOR problem
Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2011 4:55 am
by yamaha_george
http://www.laresblog.com/2011/04/why-ca ... thout.html
Having read this and the owners manual I do not think one of these is on my shopping list (well not for cash LoL) although a balaclava may be ....................
Re: Ducati Diavel has a MAJOR problem
Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2011 5:51 am
by trifgeorge
Non working link
Re: Ducati Diavel has a MAJOR problem
Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2011 5:58 am
by yamaha_george
trifgeorge wrote:Non working link
Works now ...................................
Re: Ducati Diavel has a MAJOR problem
Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2011 6:41 am
by DonTZ125
A mechanical key isn't required at ALL?! How the hell do you lock it down?
Re: Ducati Diavel has a MAJOR problem
Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2011 8:56 am
by yamaha_george
DonTZ125 wrote:A mechanical key isn't required at ALL?! How the hell do you lock it down?
The password is required to by-pass the key in case you mis place your keys.
the daft bit is the FACT that the last 4 digits of the VIN code is the password to start the bike !!!
There are instructions buried on page 48<?> of the owners manual to change this BUT how many PO's will actually do this and remember what it is ?????????? and then how many will make it 6666 or some such easy guess number like the year they were born or somesuch nonsense.
Re: Ducati Diavel has a MAJOR problem
Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2011 9:39 am
by ragedigital
A thumb scanner would be cool.
They need to make it at least 6 digits or more.
I believe that keys will be phased out in the automobile industry in less than 10 years. Mechanical systems are easy to bypass. Trying to bypass a microcontroller will be much tougher.
Re: Ducati Diavel has a MAJOR problem
Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2011 9:46 am
by yamaha_george
ragedigital wrote:A thumb scanner would be cool.
They need to make it at least 6 digits or more.
I believe that keys will be phased out in the automobile industry in less than 10 years. Mechanical systems are easy to bypass. Trying to bypass a microcontroller will be much tougher.
RD,
you are probably correct BUT the terrible thing will be that the like of us Forum Denizens will be out of business because you will not be able to mix & match bits and bikes :-{
who knows we may be able to get bike hacker black boxes that brute force the code if it stays 4 digits ?????
The bog standard car wrench is virtually dying out as the laptop mechanic takes over, watched American Hot Rod wrestle with the ignition system on an old but relatively modern engine had to call a computer nerd to sort it !!!!
Re: Ducati Diavel has a MAJOR problem
Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2011 10:34 am
by ragedigital
yamaha_george wrote:who knows we may be able to get bike hacker black boxes that brute force the code if it stays 4 digits ?????
They will make Black Boxes, but they will be used to bypass the system instead of trying to hack in.
What the vehicle maker needs is modules (ignition, etc) that communicate a common sequence of codes to each other at start-up so that any foreign module will disrupt the system and not allow the vehicle to function.