Ranting about petcocks

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DonTZ125
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Ranting about petcocks

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Ok, enough. Every time I recommend to someone that they turn off their petcock when not actually operating the motorcycle, I see three or four people chiming in that they never turn off their petcock and have never experienced any difficulties. (this is on multiple boards, not just here)

Without fail, within 3-4 weeks someone will post that their bike is having difficulty starting, and that fuel is leaking out of the bowl overflow, or their exhaust is black and stinks of gas, or one of their plugs is fouled, or one of their headers is cold. Someone will suggest that the problem is a stuck float valve, or a bit of crap in the float needle. I will recommend that the petcock be turned off, and three or four people etc etc... banghead

About once or twice a year someone will post, tearing their hair out, that fuel is POURING out their airbox, exhaust, crankcase breather. We have a fellow on this board right now who is ready to sell his freshly-rebuilt bike for chump change because this has so freaked him out. A float valve stuck open, and allowed the gravity-fed tank to drain into the engine. Why? Because the petcock wasn't turned off. A dead simple problem with an even simpler solution, and he's ready to throw up his hands in despair and disgust. (This is not a condemnation of that individual, but rather an extreme illustration of how such a simple system can be so misunderstood.)

I've posted on a lot of boards for a lot of years, and it's the same thing again and again. The float valve is a FLOW CONTROL valve; the fact that it is (nominally) capable of Tight Shut-Off is almost secondary. It is a back-up in case you forget to close the actual Shut-Off Valve, which is the petcock.

A comparison - the primary means of slowing the vehicle is the braking system. This is what the manufacturer intended that you use to slow down. The engine will also slow you down. How many people use JUST engine braking to stop at a light? How many racers use JUST engine braking at a bus stop - or ANY corner, for that matter? Did you know that using JUST engine braking before a corner will increase your odds of crashing? Even that brief moment of braking warms the tire, giving you better grip. This is completely aside from the possibility of the clueless cager behind you driving up your ass because the brake lights didn't come on!

The float valves will prevent fuel flowing into the engine - unless they don't. That's the job of the petcock. Use the damn thing! :swear my2cents
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Re: Ranting about petcocks

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Yup, this was causing my room to fill up with the stench of fuel. I quickly got it resolved tho.
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Re: Ranting about petcocks

Post by putskey »

Amen! My brother-in-law is experiencing the same thing with his Honda. He just won't believe me when I say to shut off the petcock. NOOOOOOOOOOO I don't have a clue as to what I'm talking about! ClapHands
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Re: Ranting about petcocks

Post by yamaha_george »

DONTZ125,
Well said on both counts (petcock use & engine braking) the "rant" was well justified :-} if it saves us one more time of writing "TURN THE F******* PETCOCK TO CLOSED" it will have been worth it

excuse me while i check mine ....................
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Re: Ranting about petcocks

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I'm selling it because I'm starting school, I won't even have time to ride probably. College > FZR. This just pushed me along. In the 3 years I've owned it even with a stuck float/needle one time it still would not cause the engine to fill up in the middle of the summer. Bad luck? Probably. It happened right after I rebuilt the petcock, this time it pushed passed the fuel pump because I eliminated a weak link. Should I have turned it off? Yeah. And, I'll be telling this guy to turn it off every time.
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