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400 frame/ 600 plastics

Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2009 6:27 pm
by mxryder21
just wanna know if the 600 plastics are a direct fit to the 400 frame? tried search but didnt find an answer out of 47 pages... the only thing i can see not bolting up would be the tail. im seriously thinking of doing the 400 frame swap but dont wanna use the plastics or swinger off the 400.

Re: 400 frame/ 600 plastics

Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2009 6:36 pm
by ragedigital
To my knowledge, no part of them match up. The 400 had a single piece tail that was shorter as well.

Re: 400 frame/ 600 plastics

Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2009 8:05 pm
by mxryder21
thats a bummer. so basically i need a whole set of plastics. does the 600 birdcage bolt up to the 400 frame? what EXACTLY would i need for a complete 400 frame swap to work?

Re: 400 frame/ 600 plastics

Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2009 8:33 pm
by ragedigital
The birdcage on the 600 is much larger. Not sure if they use the same holes or not, but you're looking at a major pain to get them to fit.

Why swap to just the 400 frame? The 600 frame is still a very capable frame, plus the 400 frame dents and scratches so easy.

Re: 400 frame/ 600 plastics

Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2009 8:45 pm
by thatkid
ragedigital wrote:The birdcage on the 600 is much larger. Not sure if they use the same holes or not, but you're looking at a major pain to get them to fit.

Why swap to just the 400 frame? The 600 frame is still a very capable frame, plus the 400 frame dents and scratches so easy.
This from the guy that bought a gsxr...PSH!

Re: 400 frame/ 600 plastics

Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2009 9:10 pm
by sweekster
You might want to PM BWeight. His 88 400 has 600 bodywork it and I think he can give you a good idea of what it takes to make em fit.

Re: 400 frame/ 600 plastics

Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2009 9:22 pm
by ragedigital
sweekster wrote:You might want to PM BWeight. His 88 400 has 600 bodywork it and I think he can give you a good idea of what it takes to make em fit.
He used the 600 front and sides and the 400 rear. Good call, Duane.
thatkid wrote:This from the guy that bought a gsxr...PSH!
I still have a 400 frame and swinger.... lol

Re: 400 frame/ 600 plastics

Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2009 10:26 pm
by mxryder21
i was just stoked on dropping some weight and being able to polish my frame and at the same time save some money by using the plastics i currently have. i got a salvage title on this bike found a 400 frame with clean title so that was also another factor. guess i could always get a clean 600 frame and powdercoat it or something...

Re: 400 frame/ 600 plastics

Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2009 10:58 pm
by sweekster
mxryder21 wrote:i was just stoked on dropping some weight and being able to polish my frame and at the same time save some money by using the plastics i currently have. i got a salvage title on this bike found a 400 frame with clean title so that was also another factor. guess i could always get a clean 600 frame and powdercoat it or something...
Dude...get the frame anyway and use your fairings....I doubt it's that hard to get em to fit. Plus you can then do the hidden steering damper mod

Re: 400 frame/ 600 plastics

Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2009 11:01 pm
by bweight
Its actually not that hard at all to get the 600 plastics on the bike.. You have to make some new brackets to bolt them on, but it's not that bad. Just some 1/8" flatbar with the holes in them is what I used.. Trial and error getting it to mount, but when I had them in the right place I welded some nuts onto the backside of the flatbar and it's done. The upper is a little harder. I had a 600 birdcage and it just didn't wanna work. So I had my old 400 cage and sorta macgyver'd them together so it mounts correctly and also holds the bigger 600 upper fairing. For the tail section, I just used a 400 tail and it's done..

Anyways, here's a few pics of the mounts I had to make.. ImageImageImageImage

Re: 400 frame/ 600 plastics

Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2009 11:32 pm
by mxryder21
sweet bike bweight, that paint scheme is wicked. yeah dude, i think im gonna scrap the 400 frame idea and find a clean 600 frame, powdercoat it black and call it good.

anyone know where i can find a "clean" 600 frame in central-northern cali or las vegas?

Re: 400 frame/ 600 plastics

Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2009 11:38 pm
by ragedigital
You're probably going to have one shipped to you. It's usually less than $60 to ship if you find the right person to do it.

I love a black frame:

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Re: 400 frame/ 600 plastics

Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2009 11:44 pm
by mxryder21
Agreed THAT IS SEXY

Re: 400 frame/ 600 plastics

Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2009 6:56 pm
by Fizzinatorr
Freeze has a frame for sale

Re: 400 frame/ 600 plastics

Posted: Thu Jun 04, 2009 10:16 pm
by pimpin
Mine was a fairly simple process. The engine fits fine, no issue there at all. Carbs are a bit tight but again no issue. The only bit I wasn't able to fit was the fan.... so just drive fast! lol. It works great and not that hard to do at all. You'll have to beef up your chain and sprockets but go for it, well worth it! Enjoy.