GEARHEADS:- tuning air boxes
Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2009 9:06 am
Ok this is from another forum from a good cyber pal who usually is quite sound in his judgements on tuning (he own I believe the most powerful RG500 naturally aspirated bike on the planet ) so I tend to pay attention to where he is going tuning wise !
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The question :-
On Mar 29, 2009, at 1:01 PM, RD 500 LC Club wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I was read some articles on airbox design and on my RZ500 / FZR400RR
> chassis I'm on airbox design now for my 28mm Keihin carb.
> I know that airbox is a Helmhotz resonator so volume, neck length and
> area are linked to the resonance frequency.
> I have setup a calculator sheet to compute some parameters according
> to other...
>
http://rd500lc.free.fr/rd-fzr/rd_op_2_p2_en.html
> My idea is :
> - 4 ducts / 50mm ID / 50cm length => 1 liter per tube
> - 1 box / 1 liter / intake duct => behind the steering head.
> The total volume will be 5 liter.
>
> Is this a good or bad idea, any weak points...
>
> Your comments?
>
THE ANSWER :-
I was asking about superbike airboxes and I was told they go for the
usual single, large airbox but the ram tubes don;t feed directly into
the box, or else they become the 'inlet tube" so the idea is to feed
ram air into a plenum and then have an inlet stack on the airbox that
tunes the frequency.
you want one big box huffing and puffing, so it's pushing that air
into your carbs. I am having a hard time visualizing the 4 ducts
doing this, but then again I am just guessing.
Maybe of more importance than the resonance, is the benefit you will
get from simply providing your engine with cold air and no hot engine
air. you will gain 1% power for every 10 degrees F drop in air
temperature. And that gain will be spread evenly over the rev range,
unlike a resonance in your airbox.
So any large, cold-inlet only airbox will be a benefit. you could
dyno test by mocking up a crude box, and tune the inlet frequency
with a slippy-tube . then run the bike with various intake tubes and
see what happens.
I just went through a little of this putting velocity stacks on a 4-
stroke (ahem) trying to tune the intake resonance. info here
I have 5 pages on airbox resonance and intake foolery, if you want to
poke around
http://web.me.com/rg500delta/TL1000/Air ... nance.html
this one was about tuning the inlet stack length
http://web.me.com/rg500delta/TL1000/15_ ... _dyno.html
Randy N
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QUOTE :-
The question :-
On Mar 29, 2009, at 1:01 PM, RD 500 LC Club wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I was read some articles on airbox design and on my RZ500 / FZR400RR
> chassis I'm on airbox design now for my 28mm Keihin carb.
> I know that airbox is a Helmhotz resonator so volume, neck length and
> area are linked to the resonance frequency.
> I have setup a calculator sheet to compute some parameters according
> to other...
>
http://rd500lc.free.fr/rd-fzr/rd_op_2_p2_en.html
> My idea is :
> - 4 ducts / 50mm ID / 50cm length => 1 liter per tube
> - 1 box / 1 liter / intake duct => behind the steering head.
> The total volume will be 5 liter.
>
> Is this a good or bad idea, any weak points...
>
> Your comments?
>
THE ANSWER :-
I was asking about superbike airboxes and I was told they go for the
usual single, large airbox but the ram tubes don;t feed directly into
the box, or else they become the 'inlet tube" so the idea is to feed
ram air into a plenum and then have an inlet stack on the airbox that
tunes the frequency.
you want one big box huffing and puffing, so it's pushing that air
into your carbs. I am having a hard time visualizing the 4 ducts
doing this, but then again I am just guessing.
Maybe of more importance than the resonance, is the benefit you will
get from simply providing your engine with cold air and no hot engine
air. you will gain 1% power for every 10 degrees F drop in air
temperature. And that gain will be spread evenly over the rev range,
unlike a resonance in your airbox.
So any large, cold-inlet only airbox will be a benefit. you could
dyno test by mocking up a crude box, and tune the inlet frequency
with a slippy-tube . then run the bike with various intake tubes and
see what happens.
I just went through a little of this putting velocity stacks on a 4-
stroke (ahem) trying to tune the intake resonance. info here
I have 5 pages on airbox resonance and intake foolery, if you want to
poke around
http://web.me.com/rg500delta/TL1000/Air ... nance.html
this one was about tuning the inlet stack length
http://web.me.com/rg500delta/TL1000/15_ ... _dyno.html
Randy N
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