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clutch sensor on bikes...
Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2008 6:59 am
by abs929cbrrr
do i really need the sensor on the clutch to ride on the street? dirtbikes, quads and my 3wheelers never had them? i am looking to put a easy pull clutch on my 929 and wont be able to connect the wires then. my fzr had this also and i never know it until i went to sell the bike.
what on earth does it do and can i live with out it? if so this opens a whole new direction of clutch perches and lever i can run!
Re: clutch sensor on bikes...
Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2008 7:03 am
by ragedigital
To my knowledge, the only reason they exist is to prevent you from stating the bike while it's in gear.
Would be quite embarassing to have the bike leave your butt behind when you hit the "start" button...
Re: clutch sensor on bikes...
Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2008 7:24 am
by abs929cbrrr
is'nt that why if you start the bike in gear you always pull in the clutch? least what ive been doing for years.
Re: clutch sensor on bikes...
Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2008 7:28 am
by ragedigital
A lot of people don't. If I'm in Neutral, I usually don't.
Probably not the best habit, but if the "lights green, the trap is clean" (old ghostbusters reference).
Re: clutch sensor on bikes...
Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2008 8:42 am
by cad600
The clutch switch allows you to start the bike while it is in gear. When you pull the clutch lever in, it releases the plunger on the switch which tells the computer the clutch has been enabled so it will be allowed to crank. Basically, with out the switch you can only start the bike from neutral. Unless things have been re-wired to bypass the switch. Then neutral sensor is different, it is inside the engine and can not be removed.
Re: clutch sensor on bikes...
Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2008 8:49 am
by yamaha_george
abs600fzrr wrote:is'nt that why if you start the bike in gear you always pull in the clutch? least what ive been doing for years.
Hi,
My uncle taught me at age 13 to pull clutch when starting no matter what.
A habit I have continued for the passed 48 years , a the green light is a comfort but they do blow & no amount of gear flicking will make it work <BG>
Re: clutch sensor on bikes...
Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2008 9:00 am
by cad600
The new Ducati's are suppose to have a check systems so you don't get a false neutral. I know someone who has experienced it on a new Duck though. He barely caught the bike as it hit the curb and started to fall over.
They do start really cool though. Turn the key, check to see if it is in neutral, flip the switch to run, and press the start button once. The computer does the rest and will crank the bike till it starts.
Re: clutch sensor on bikes...
Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2008 9:02 am
by haunter
I been lookin at one of those raptors too dude.....I would have the same issue
Re: clutch sensor on bikes...
Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2008 9:04 am
by megaloxana
So the fzr is supposed to have a clutch switch? I always start my bike with the clutch pulled and I have to be in neutral or else it won't start. Maybe mine is bad?
Re: clutch sensor on bikes...
Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2008 10:06 am
by haunter
sounds like it
Re: clutch sensor on bikes...
Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2008 11:13 am
by 95FZR600
Idiot proof is all it is. Harleys dont have them or is that the kick stand sensor?
Re: clutch sensor on bikes...
Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2008 11:15 am
by YAM93
What do you need an easy-pull clutch lever for ? If the 929 / 954 was any easier to pull a 10-year-old could ride it.
I like my levers the way they are, every now and then there's always a possibility for even a seasoned rider to F-up and that's what the safety features are for.
Like CAD600's Ducati friend will tell you, it only takes one time to screw up, and you'll be cursing yourself when the bike is on the asphalt.
Leaving well enough alone for you guys is tough i know, but another hobby may be needed ... i wonder sometimes.
Unless you're just going for Magura, CRG, ASV, or Pazzo
BLING (nothing totally wrong with that, except it's a lot of $$ money $$ that could go into a savings account for when you're out of a job / future retirement)
I didn't get my (first street bike) FZR until I was almost 25, so remember that you're pretty fortunate and try to be careful with your money. A late mortgage payment in the future could ruin your credit. (sorry i'm acting jaded but i've seen too many people get financially burned and also have been not able to work or out of work for months sometimes)
-Dad

Re: clutch sensor on bikes...
Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2008 11:25 am
by haunter
YAM93 wrote:What do you need an easy-pull clutch lever for ? If the 929 / 954 was any easier to pull a 10-year-old could ride it.
I like my levers the way they are, every now and then there's always a possibility for even a seasoned rider to F-up and that's what the safety features are for.
Like CAD600's Ducati friend will tell you, it only takes one time to screw up, and you'll be cursing yourself when the bike is on the asphalt.
Leaving well enough alone for you guys is tough i know, but another hobby may be needed ... i wonder sometimes.
Unless you're just going for Magura, CRG, ASV, or Pazzo
BLING (nothing totally wrong with that, except it's a lot of $$ money $$ that could go into a savings account for when you're out of a job / future retirement)
I didn't get my (first street bike) FZR until I was almost 25, so remember that you're pretty fortunate and try to be careful with your money. A late mortgage payment in the future could ruin your credit. (sorry i'm acting jaded but i've seen too many people get financially burned and also have been not able to work or out of work for months sometimes)
-Dad

the action on my 6 is godawful, thats why!
Re: clutch sensor on bikes...
Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2008 12:00 pm
by cad600
And I just went the opposite direction by switching to a hydraulic clutch. Boy do I need to build some hand strength.
Re: clutch sensor on bikes...
Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2008 12:03 pm
by megaloxana
Kinda offtopic-- My bike shuts off automatically when i drop the kickstand down, even when in neutral. Now I don't think it was always like that. Yours like that?