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Brake caliper O ring seals

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Hi,
young fellow has a problem with the two halves of his calipers weeping Hydraulics. Taking them apart shows that the P.O. did NOT put back the O rings between the two halves round the feed hole to each piston !!!!!!
I can find no stock here and I therefore need the size to go to an industrial supplier & post them to him (he is the boonies) )

Needless to say we could buy another set of calipers but so far this is the second set he has bought (the originals were VERY rusty & mangled) , the new owner thus is very reluctant to do anything that costs even more.

I thought i had the sizes written down here in the UK but it seems likely the old grey stuff is just old and forgetful ::-{
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Hi, George. If you mike the o-ring groove OD and depth, we can check different charts for a match. Depending on where your friend is, it might be easier to match inch AS-568 sizes or metric. Be very careful about the compound - EPDM is the only one I remember that was good for brake fluid, and it was severely degraded by hydrocarbons.
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DonTZ125 wrote:Hi, George. If you mike the o-ring groove OD and depth, we can check different charts for a match. Depending on where your friend is, it might be easier to match inch AS-568 sizes or metric. Be very careful about the compound - EPDM is the only one I remember that was good for brake fluid, and it was severely degraded by hydrocarbons.

Don,
Unfortunately my young friend is not a tech head and has no "engineers" tools for measuring being in a very rural area there is no backup what so ever hence him asking me and me going fishing for specific sizes.
Once i have the size the company i buy O rings from will sort the material out as i will tell the the job the ring is doing
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I'll strip a spare in the morning and get some measurements for you
If its not broken it dont need fixing

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Stig wrote:I'll strip a spare in the morning and get some measurements for you
Thanks mate , our young friend may just keep all his hair after all.
I know my supplier of O rings will sort me out if i give them something to work with.

The next hassle is to get him some piston seals for said calipers as a pound to a penny they are shot too.
Good UK supplier anyone ? at a push a US supplier ?

as ever thanks for the input
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George,

I recently bought some seals to rebuild my rear caliper....and then a few weeks later noticed fluid on the paintwork of the rear wheel.

The new seals had failed so i did another rebuild but this time used genuine items...not the cheapest option but i'd sooner be safe than sorry when it comes to brakes
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Stig wrote:George,

I recently bought some seals to rebuild my rear caliper....and then a few weeks later noticed fluid on the paintwork of the rear wheel.

The new seals had failed so i did another rebuild but this time used genuine items...not the cheapest option but i'd sooner be safe than sorry when it comes to brakes
Ok stealership it is Thanks STIG
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OK so stripped the spare cailper. Seems it too suffered from the hands of a lunatic in the fact that only one of the joining seals had been installed!

Prob is, the grooves in the casting are too corroded to take an accurate measurement. I have the remaining seal in front of me and its slightly perished so can only supply a reasonable account to its original size, also being as its rubber its not EXACTLY circular

best bet is 14mm OD, 8.25mm ID, 2.15mm thick

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Stig wrote:OK so stripped the spare cailper. Seems it too suffered from the hands of a lunatic in the fact that only one of the joining seals had been installed!

Prob is, the grooves in the casting are too corroded to take an accurate measurement. I have the remaining seal in front of me and its slightly perished so can only supply a reasonable account to its original size, also being as its rubber its not EXACTLY circular

best bet is 14mm OD, 8.25mm ID, 2.15mm thick

hope this helps

Stig,
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I will feed those figures to the supplier and see what they offer . will let you all know how we get on.

my guess would be that the original was probably (Carlesberg theory) 14mm OD by 9mm ID and material 2.5mm thick
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Been Long time away but..Is it a 3en1? Ive got a set of calipers from one in the garage if memory serves. I can split em and messure if needed. Or if wanted they can be had for postage cost. Not got 3en1 anymore so redundant! I do seem to remember that they need pad pins though.
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