FZR1000 racing downunder

[ragedigital]

I saw a 1k at the Track Day here in St. Louis last August. How do you guys like the 1k on the track? Nimble enough to take the corners?

[sbutler]

I saw a 1k at the Track Day here in St. Louis last August. How do you guys like the 1k on the track? Nimble enough to take the corners?

Yes & No, I dont think they are GSXR type nimble, But they do have power to burn!
All of my work has been to handling, ive done nothing as far as extracting more power goes, just a really good dyno tune.
They handle very well, & you'd have to do something really silly to fall off them. But having said that, they are slow in direction changes, & in tight esses. Longer dog bones, lower the front forks, stiffer springs etc etc, will all make it better.
If you want an easy safe big bike for track days I think you cant go past a FZR 1000. If you want something a bit sharper, a YZF750 or a GSXR750.

We'll see how the mods to mine go this season.

[mossy1200]

Hi guys.
had the busy week.
Got new sponcer to cover tyres yeeha
Got back from dyno 137.8hp liner dyno, 152bhp vrrrrrmmm
New clutch(the aftermarket 5 race old slipping) have gone to new geniune yamaha with stronger springs
opened up the airbox more and New K&N
Purchaced rear sets.They are gsxr1000 2008 cnc so when they arrive ihave some mods to do.
Going to save me have to make new metal toe sliders every meeting and pegs every third meeting.
We race at same time as post classic juniors on there older kitted F3 bikes.
You get a bit of scraping going on when battling a 400 with big bore 450 kit.
Our classes are pre89 under 600 and over 600 open and pre82 senior and junior
They all run at the same time so its fun going when lapping starts while trying to hold race position.

This is me leading last wet round.One post classic pre 89 senior that day by lap and 31seconds http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6uR8ZIVit80
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[mossy1200]

This was my first race.I was the rookie last year.
Finished second by only one point 168 verses 169
Not bad for first year
This year i got more horses,new slicks every second race,experience.(still got old man reactions)
Have been waiting by phone for team yamaha to call.Had to work so may have missed the call.
Thats my wife in photo so dont try chatting me up LOL
Shes my team manager and pit crew.She can change wheels so i will keep her.

[mossy1200]

I saw a 1k at the Track Day here in St. Louis last August. How do you guys like the 1k on the track? Nimble enough to take the corners?

Yes & No, I dont think they are GSXR type nimble, But they do have power to burn!
All of my work has been to handling, ive done nothing as far as extracting more power goes, just a really good dyno tune.
They handle very well, & you'd have to do something really silly to fall off them. But having said that, they are slow in direction changes, & in tight esses. Longer dog bones, lower the front forks, stiffer springs etc etc, will all make it better.
If you want an easy safe big bike for track days I think you cant go past a FZR 1000. If you want something a bit sharper, a YZF750 or a GSXR750.

We'll see how the mods to mine go this season.

I am running mine stock other than K&N and opened up intake top and cut top rubber hole full size(got 2hp from 8k onwards)
The fzr power is equal to the gsxr1100 but the torque at 6-7tho is not as good so gearing is important.
The best base gearing to set up is 16/49 stock is 17/47..
16/49 is the optimium acceleration gearing and leaves you top speed 245kmph(true speed as per dynotech dyno)
The reason im on the 1989 model is we have a pre89 class with restrictions to what you can do.
The major components must remain period piece for the model(eg carbs)If a factory race team riding same bike in or before 1989 had a component then we can use it.The problem is the race bike in 1989 was owo1 750 so i end up with cv carbs and not fcrs.
If you want horses the biggest easiest gain after pipes is fcr41 keihins with vstacks.
Then leave the motor alone and have reliable fun with oil change every second meeting.

[sbutler]

Well done on your first year mossy!!
We have the pre 89 class here as well. & also pre 95 so my 92 fits like a glove.
I cant understand how your dragging your toes??
Keep the ball of you foot on the peg & then its impossable to scrape them. See pic.
I started with 17/47 went to a 16/47 but found the engine was in the wrong range for most corners, so I went back to 17/47.
The little hp I lose, I gain back by having a better gear for 90% of the track.
There is a guy over here with an 88 FZR mostly stock but for some suspension tuning & he ripps!! Im having to race against him this year. They have combined both pre89 & pre95 together so I think I'll have to pick my game up this a bit.
Have a great year & keep us up to date with your progress..
Good luck Steve.

[mossy1200]

Heres the lap record holder in our class.Im a second off his time but my fastest lap has gone from 1m20.5 to 1m16.8seconds in the first year. and 1m21.05wet.

http://motorsports.sportsimages.co.nz/m ... emId=37782


Heres me in my rookie jacket.
http://motorsports.sportsimages.co.nz/m ... emId=89539



i think my worry is with angles and im late thirties six foot 5inches tall .LOL

[sbutler]

6ft5 you are a big one arnt you. Have you lifted the rear with 155mm dog bones?
They should increase your ground clearance. I very rarely touch my pegs, only if I get offline & have to correct.
I do drag the left lower edge of the fairing most times, but it doesnt cause a problem.
I still think you need to keep your toes up on the peg. It might feel odd, but you will get use to it & it will become second nature. Try it & see how you go. Beleive it or not, Wayne Gardiner showed it to me in 1982! And I have done it ever since.
In this pic you can see the peg is well away from the road. Although Im not at full lean, there is little chance of dragging them.


This pic you can see my foot well up on the peg. You can also see the left lower part of the fairing that drags.

[mossy1200]

Im sure i got a long way to go.
I still have leg angle problem.
I also am on second set of pegs as they get shorter and shorter.
My FZR runs whitepower shocks and is very firm compaird to stock.
Manfield track has very cambered corners and lean angle can be extreme.
i have also had to lift exaust as that was draging too.
Got a cycle works pipe constructed to my own hight specs.
thanks for the pointers I just plan to get better with help where i can.
Got second by one point last year so putting cash in to get any help i can.
Got a tyre sponcer for $2400 worth of tyres this season which will do 4sets at discounted price at local bikeshop
Will stick new tred on every second round
Winning in wet easy enough but 1sec to find in dry but i know have 7extra hp to play with and not having to do 2nd hand tires this year.

Cheers Steve

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6uR8ZIVit80

[mossy1200]

i got you a picture of me on the gsx750e i built a while ago.My calfs are unusually long.
This will give you better idea why i want some adjustment.

[ragedigital]

Mossy - You're leaning that bike over way too far. You need to get your whole body off the bike, not just yer arse!

Put your head where the mirrors woud be. Your bike will be more upright and you'll increase your traction and speed.

The photo (below) shows a guy whose body is in a good line. His head is off as much as his ass. Too many people ride with their butts off the bike and their heads over the middle of the tank...

[mossy1200]

Hi there/
The number 63 is not me.
Number 89 is me.If you role through the picture in the site you will see there is oil on track hence the next guy high sides in it.Im sitting up to see the oil.
At that stage we had also been dodging a two stroke muffler on the same corner and every so often it would move when it had been clipped.
I want the rear sets so that i can get down more.The angles just are not correct because of my legs.If my feet where back further my body would want to be further forward.

http://motorsports.sportsimages.co.nz/m ... emId=89549 heres the next guy.You can scroll the photos back and forward
http://motorsports.sportsimages.co.nz/m ... emId=81477 Entry of the s bend

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6uR8ZIVit80

[sbutler]

That was gonna be my next suggestion.. ragedigital is correct, you have a lean angle issue, you need to climb off the bike more, [in my opinion] That will stand the bike up a little while not losing corner speed.
Keep at it mossy & you'll be right. Second is nothing to be scoffed at. You have done very well

My suggestions are 2 fold & both should work>>
Just try to get the ride height up some more on the bike.
Climb off the bike some more.

Then you will be holding the winners cup!!!

[mossy1200]

Got 2nd last year built built my self a first place trailer.
Started 7.30am and warrented and registered at 4.30pm and painted by 9pm
Trailer in a day at $530.00 NZ dollars all up.

LOL


Anyone know how to change the avatar photo as bikes now different colours?
Keep the suggestions coming.
Please note the first photo links i gave were round two and my third ever race(two races per round)so it was when my times were 1min20 not 1min16 so the technic has got better since then also.
I am hoping to get 1st this year as i was one point shy last year 168 verses 169
I also have my bike well sorted as i had brake ,clutch and set up issues.
I am not sure about raising bike as i have whitepower shock racing internals in the original showa shokes with white power spring.
This is a conversion that has been done by one of New Zealands top race bike shock specialists and is perhaps a step below full ohlins set up which i am not aloud as are pre 89 rules read major race componants must stock or faithfull replica of time period for the particular model.No cross swaping parts.EG zxr400usd parts cant be put onto FZR400 and so on.
Club level is not to strict but i want to run road circuits like Wanganui which is Nationals level rules with international riders and Bernard racing team etc.

Cheers . keep the assistance coming as guys i race against slowed down the advice when i started winning then stoped when i laped the field of post classic seniors in the wet.LOL
Steve

[mossy1200]

found the old pegs.